VTLNSEQ1 FY23July 25, 2022

Vardhman Textiles Limited

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Management on call
Neeraj Jain
JOINT MANAGING DIRECTOR, VARDHMAN TEXTILES LIMITED
Rajeev Thapar
CFO, VARDHMAN TEXTILES LIMITED
Mukesh Bansal
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, FABRIC MARKETING, VARDHMAN TEXTILES LIMITED
Varun Malhotra
HEAD OF FINANCE, VARDHMAN TEXTILES LIMITED
Abhishek Nigam
BATLIVALA & KARANI
Key numbers — 40 extracted
INR105,000,
Specifically, to the Indian situation, the prices came down in India also. We saw a high of almost INR105,000, INR106,000 a candy, and from there we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a cand
INR106,000
, to the Indian situation, the prices came down in India also. We saw a high of almost INR105,000, INR106,000 a candy, and from there we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a candy. So, the
INR80,000
high of almost INR105,000, INR106,000 a candy, and from there we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a candy. So, the drop of almost 25%, 30%, whereas, the drop internationally is higher.
INR83,000
ost INR105,000, INR106,000 a candy, and from there we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a candy. So, the drop of almost 25%, 30%, whereas, the drop internationally is higher. So, over the
25%
om there we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a candy. So, the drop of almost 25%, 30%, whereas, the drop internationally is higher. So, over there we saw from USD1.55 going down t
30%
ere we came down to as on today almost INR80,000 to INR83,000 a candy. So, the drop of almost 25%, 30%, whereas, the drop internationally is higher. So, over there we saw from USD1.55 going down to abo
INR82,000,
is higher. So, over there we saw from USD1.55 going down to about USD0.90. The Indian cotton with INR82,000, INR83,000 today is one of the costliest in the entire world. And in terms of US cents, coming close
70%
.18 to USD0.20 higher than the international prices. There are four countries which covers almost 70%, 80% of the spinning capacity of the world. India, Pakistan, China and Vietnam. Look at the prices
80%
o USD0.20 higher than the international prices. There are four countries which covers almost 70%, 80% of the spinning capacity of the world. India, Pakistan, China and Vietnam. Look at the prices in a
75%
n do in this period, we are still at about USD1.38, and these four countries cover practically at 75%, 80% of the spinning for the entire world. So, as a result, India has a huge disadvantage which c
INR80,000,
han buying cotton at these prices. As a result of that, though, the theoretical prices are almost INR80,000, INR82,000 as of now per candy in India, there's hardly any deal happening. There is neither a buyer
INR82,000
cotton at these prices. As a result of that, though, the theoretical prices are almost INR80,000, INR82,000 as of now per candy in India, there's hardly any deal happening. There is neither a buyer, nor a se
Guidance — 20 items
Neeraj Jain
opening
And in terms of US cents, coming close to about USD1.37, USD1.38, whereas the international cotton available today, the cot loom or the cotton available internationally will be in the range of maybe about, maximum will be in the range of about USD1.20 or so.
Neeraj Jain
opening
Look at the prices in all these four countries, the prices of Vardhman Textiles Limited July 25, 2022 raw cotton in China will be close to about, is less than USD1, that is USD0.92 as of now.
Neeraj Jain
opening
The Vietnam is the third biggest and the Australian cotton available to them today is a USD0.90, near future will be in range of about maybe USD1.18 to USD1.20.
Neeraj Jain
opening
So, on a silver lining, one, the next year crop seems to be good.
Neeraj Jain
opening
So, which we expect now the pipeline, the pipeline is in limited therefore.
Neeraj Jain
opening
And rather we will require to provide for next quarter also or that can be reversed also?
Neeraj Jain
opening
So, the next quarter there is not likely to be any negative loss to that extent or maybe today we have still some puts available to us.
Neeraj Jain
opening
But the as far as the negativity is concerned, as of now, I don't think there's any likely to be any negative in the next quarter, if the cotton goes down or those ports become in money, that could be a positive news.
Neeraj Jain
opening
And going forward currently in the month of July, do you think, with the prices coming down to INR82,000 to INR83,000, any further increment demand from the export side or not much like?
Neeraj Jain
opening
So, I think it's only it looks like maybe only October or November onwards, when the new arrival comes in and physically cotton is available, then only the prices will be aligned to the, aligning more to the overall market.
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
And I think May, June, July, things were becoming more difficult or more challenging as the time passed.
Neeraj Jain
And then they came to the wait and watch policy rather than placing the orders because the concern was, by the time the product reaches them, there would be a huge loss in the overall inventory and the system.
Neeraj Jain
The second impact of this was also based upon the future prices of cotton in India.
Neeraj Jain
The third factor was the inflation outside India, which was a big concern.
Neeraj Jain
So that's on the industry side, and specifically on Vardhman side, over and above the results and the situation which I have mentioned, I think this is a period where the industry is passing through a very difficult time.
Neeraj Jain
So, it is more of a sentimental as of now rather than any major issue or a concern.
Neeraj Jain
It will take one year but I think that's what we feel that there should be a positive pressure on the team to utilize it fully and then only to take up the next project.
Neeraj Jain
So, whenever new cotton prices come in, so there are two kinds of valuation which can be a concern.
Neeraj Jain
Currently in the last call, you had mentioned that this year you're holding less cotton than usual, and so I think the stress is that even though the cotton may not be there, but on the finished good, you still may have to take the inventory hit, if the prices are lower.
Sandeep Baid
So, there was a concern that you buy cotton today, by the time that is imported into India, because the shipment was taking lots of time, so, four months down the line it should get in India and by the time the prices comes down, where are you going to make a use of this.
Neeraj Jain
My concern was only that the cotton is short in the country, and we will have to pay that cost till the time the new crops comes in.
Neeraj Jain
So that's where my concern for the Indian spinner as of now.
Neeraj Jain
The overall, once our cotton is also comparable to the international markets, I don't think there's really any big challenge.
Neeraj Jain
Hopefully yes and --- but the challenge is now, we understand the government also wants to put into the areas where more unemployment is there.
Neeraj Jain
And we were cautious, we were looking at the Indian prices of raw materials much higher than international prices, which was giving us a concern when we did the fourth quarter call.
Neeraj Jain
Speaking time
Neeraj Jain
62
Monish Ghodke
13
Moderator
8
Abhineet Anand
8
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
7
Sandeep Baid
7
Apurva Sharma
6
Nikhil Agrawal
5
Umesh Jain
3
Mukesh Bansal
3
Opening remarks
Neeraj Jain
Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Vardhman Textiles Limited Q1 FY’23 Earnings Conference Call, hosted by Batlivala & Karani Securities India Private Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing “*” then “0” on your touch tone phone. Please note, that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Abhishek Nigam from Batlivala & Karani Securities India Private Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir. Hi, everyone. Good afternoon. Welcome to the Vardhman Textiles Q1 FY’23 earnings conference call. And from the management team, we are joined today by Mr. Neeraj Jain, who is the Joint Managing Director; Mr. Sushil Jhamb, Director Raw Materials; Mr. Rajeev Thapar, CFO; Mr. Mukesh Bansal, Senior Vice President, Fabric Marketing, and M
Neeraj Jain
Yes. Thank you, Neerajji. Good evening, everyone. On the fabric side, if you look at, the Q1 was sequentially little slower as compared to Q4 last year. Primarily, the reason being, there was inventory correction happening in the western world, primarily in the U.S., wherein we saw a lot of pent-up demand after the lockdown opened during the Q3 and Q4 last year. There were two factors to it. One was that the offices started opening. So, people who were working from home, they had to go to the offices. So, they need newer clothing for the office wear. Whereas in the previous quarters, the demand was more for the clothing that was suitable for work-from-home. So, the brands had higher inventory of casual wear and possibly the lower inventory for more dresses or fabrics. So that was one reason where there was a demand and supply mismatch. The right kind of stuff was not available in the stores. Second is that the logistics tightening that was there before, that started easing out for the
Anil Kumar Sharma
Right. And my second question is at what capacity we are running presently sir in the yarn and fabric?
Neeraj Jain
So, on the spinning side, as I mentioned, we have stocked about 8%, 9% of our capacity, whereas on the fabric side, we are running more than about 80% of our capacity as of now. So, 80%, 85% of capacity is still under existing. So overall capacity utilization is not that bad for us.
Umesh Jain
So, I have two questions. One from an industry perspective, post the ban of Xinjiang cotton, I think that has also become an act from this month itself. From last month and a half year, since the ban is effective, are we seeing some sort of more demand from countries like Bangladesh who are procuring yarn from China? Vardhman Textiles Limited July 25, 2022
Neeraj Jain
Definitely the demand from China…from Bangladesh has been good in the previous quarters. But yes, as on today, I think all parts of the world, everyone is in a wait and watch situation and using their own inventories. So, the overall demand is less even from Bangladesh also, for the last almost, one and a half, two months. That is aligned with the world markets. Sure. So, from a structural perspective, do you think this Xinjiang ban could actually shift the Bangladeshi garment manufacturer to start procuring yarn from India also? I know, I understand Bangladesh is one of the major export partners for Indian yarn manufacturing companies. But that can accelerate from here on? If you look at last two years, the demand from Bangladesh has been quite good. They are expanding in a big way on the garmenting side. At the same time, they are not expanding that big on the spinning side. So, if they continue to do well, by taking a share from China, I'm sure the overall demand for yarn from Bangl
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