TEXRAILNSEQ1 FY2022August 16, 2022

Texmaco Rail & Engineering Limited

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Management on call
Navin Agarwal
HEAD
Key numbers — 37 extracted
10,000 Crore
d to announce to the investors that Texmaco today has an order book which is slowly inching towards 10,000 Crores which includes the wagon orders both from Indian railways, private customers, EPC business, etc. T
rs,
ing towards 10,000 Crores which includes the wagon orders both from Indian railways, private customers, EPC business, etc. Theoretically we are sitting on order book of (inaudible) 2:19 plus now and it is
6450 Crore
leased to announce that we bagged our largest ever order from Indian Railways last quarter which is 6450 Crores close to 20,000 wagons to be executed over the period of 39 months over and above that we also hav
305.09 Crore
any, although not good, but then I have to share with you. The gross revenue for the quarter one is 305.09 Crores as compared to 336.58 Crores in the corresponding quarter of the previous year, which was unfortun
336.58 Crore
hen I have to share with you. The gross revenue for the quarter one is 305.09 Crores as compared to 336.58 Crores in the corresponding quarter of the previous year, which was unfortunately also impacted last year
3.62 Crore
to improve the performance. The EBITDA gross profit that is PBT, net profit after tax are negative 3.62 Crores, negative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores
26.06 Crore
mance. The EBITDA gross profit that is PBT, net profit after tax are negative 3.62 Crores, negative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores and 4.7 Crores respecti
22.53 Crore
ofit that is PBT, net profit after tax are negative 3.62 Crores, negative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores and 4.7 Crores respectively in the previous year
41.57 Crore
tax are negative 3.62 Crores, negative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores and 4.7 Crores respectively in the previous year quarter one. These are comparative
15.66 Crore
ve 3.62 Crores, negative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores and 4.7 Crores respectively in the previous year quarter one. These are comparative performance wh
4.7 Crore
egative 26.06 Crores and negative 22.53 Crores against a positive of 41.57 Crores, 15.66 Crores and 4.7 Crores respectively in the previous year quarter one. These are comparative performance which is just for
80%
comes to the rolling stock division which is the main division of the company because almost 70 to 80% turnover comes from here if you do not consider rail EPC and if you consider rail EPC still 60% of
Guidance — 18 items
AK Vijay
opening
Although you will not be very happy, you will be disappointed with the kind of performance which the company has-done in the first quarter there are reasons, but the reasons are more justification.
AK Vijay
opening
The 20067 order is to be executed in 39 months and thereafter so it means virtually three and quarter year we will have to gear up for this thing and this year we have to perform for six months combatively so roughly we will have to do about 3300 wagons and from next year onwards as per requirement we have to deliver minimum 6600 number of wagons.
AK Vijay
opening
It was 80% through rail at that point of time in movement and with all the green movement, pollution issues reducing the carbon foot print and all those things I think the focus on railway will increase more and more in the coming year so this is how basically it is and the railway has ambiguous target of CAGR of 16.5% which is none of the government segment has ever assumed about.
AK Vijay
opening
This is what railways has done apart from this there is a very robust demand coming out of private sector because they know pretty well the railway will be buying only standard type of wagons which are open and closed types rest all the type of wagon requirement will be have to be met by them through their own sources so all specialized end requirement need to be made by them.
AK Vijay
opening
With this basically I foresee that the wagon division especially the rolling stock wagon division will be doing well, will start improving from quarter two and do the best performance during quarter three and quarter four as of now as the situation emerges.
AK Vijay
opening
We will be carrying out all these things.
AK Vijay
opening
The plans are all ready but yes we are targeting to increase the production capacity to almost 36,000 tonnes which will be in operation from next year middle.
Ashish Gupta
qa
The next question as per your press release Ashish you will be leaving the company for Greener Pastures so could you just let us know give us some clarity on who will take over your position what is happening on that front because we have got any clarity on that yet and also could you on that point just reflect during your duration as MD how has the company evolved because clearly delivery is still lacking so could you speak a little about those two points.
AK Vijay
qa
Basically on a capex side we are targeting to invest close to about Rs.100 Crores and this funding will be done primarily from borrowing which we are basically already tied up some borrowings to extent of 75 to 80 Crores and balance will be from generation.
Ashish Gupta
qa
As a result of this thing there will be a big pressure on the steel and other requirement which are all being bought in cash so we will looking for an enhancement of about 100 Crores over there so that is where we are basically putting a break and want to restrict our borrowing to achieve the production in respect of what we have explained to you earlier from here onwards.
Risks & concerns — 6 flagged
The positive for us is that the kind of requirement which emerges out of the wagon requirement which we need to deliver to the railways will require a amount of casting which is today is a challenge for steel foundry to produce and we have to really gear up make sure that our production capacity will improve substantially from what we have been doing over years and meet the requirement for the wagon so that the wagon plant is not wanting for this thing.
AK Vijay
They are shot to the roof resulting in this thing that yes the margins have really seriously impacted and whatever we are doing we are trying to restrict ourselves so that we are not serious challenge on the working on funds and whatever funds are available to that extent only we are doing this thing.
AK Vijay
As a result of this thing there will be a big pressure on the steel and other requirement which are all being bought in cash so we will looking for an enhancement of about 100 Crores over there so that is where we are basically putting a break and want to restrict our borrowing to achieve the production in respect of what we have explained to you earlier from here onwards.
Ashish Gupta
Normally in a quarter end there can be challenge because railways has to get the new budget allocation from their existing but then as far as capital is concerned it is planned and the fund availability is always there.
Ashish Gupta
The issue comes in case of rail EPC there also fund availability is not serious challenge but the process of bill passing is something which always becomes a challenge.
Ashish Gupta
See the Indian railway orders it comes with a price variation clause so the risk in these contracts is very, very low so I would say the margins in the private sectors orders are significantly higher, but these are also not very TEXMACO RAIL & ENGINEERING LTD.
Ashish Gupta
Q&A — 1 exchanges
Q
So [had a few questions firstly wanted to understand clearly why has Texmaco specifically faced the shortage of wheel sets because if you look at another listed competitor in their rolling stock division they have not really suffered as much as this company so I mean if this shortage is going on from Ukraine because of shift and supply from Ukraine and also government diverting wheel set supply to public for public needs I mean other companies should be affected so why only Texmaco from at least the listed players who we investors can see from. If you look at our opening order book beginning o
Indrajit Mookerjee
August 16, 2022 private sector is concerned and we have strengthened our marketing teams. We have fresh team. We will be going around the market. Developing new wagon designs. We have also entered the export markets once again. We have recently done a very, very innovative design for a steel company in Africa. It is not a thing which you can achieve overnight but yes last two years has been very focused on figuring for future and I think as a company we have done very well and today we are sitting on a very large order book and the order book is much beyond what the Indian railways order book
Speaking time
Ashish Gupta
5
AK Vijay
2
Indrajit Mookerjee
2
Moderator
1
Manish
1
Navin Agarwal
1
Opening remarks
Ashish Gupta
earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing “? then “0” on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Navin Agarwal, Head Institutional Equities at SKP Securities Limited. Thank you and over to you Sir! Good moming ladies and gentlemen. It is my pleasure to welcome you to this earnings conference call on behalf of Texmaco Rail and SKP Securities. We have with us Mr. Indrajit Mookerjee, Managing Director along with his colleagues Mr. A K Vijay, Executive Director, Mr. Hemant Bhuwania, VP, Corporate Finance, and Mr. Ravi Varma, VP Corporate Affairs and Company Secretary. We will have the opening remarks from Mr. Ashish Gupta and over view on the financials by Mr. Vijay followed by a Q&A s
AK Vijay
Thank you Ashish and welcome again all the investors and we are happy to welcome you in this investor conference which is for the quarter one of the performance of Texmaco Rail and Engineering Limited. Although you will not be very happy, you will be disappointed with the kind of performance which the company has-done in the first quarter there are reasons, but the reasons are more justification. We accept we have not been able to perform to the expectation of investors, but we can assure you going forward we are taking all such steps that as Ashish already explained to you the order book is very comfortable and we are taking steps towards how we can increase the production and productivity by increasing shift, by investing some money in the balancing equipment, making sure the transaction facilities are duly provided with the required working capital so that the production and other things pickup, my dispatches pickup and we will try to churn out one of the best performance which comp
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