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With reference to our earlier intimation No. RDL/067/2025-26 dated November 01, 2025 and in terms of Regulation 30 of the SEBI (Listing Obligations and Disclosure Requirements) Regulations, 2015, we are enclosing herewith the transcript of the conference call with Investors and analysts held on Monday, November 10, 2025 in respect of the Unaudited Standalone and Consolidated Financial Results for the Quarter ended 30th September, 2025.
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“Rushil Decor Limited
Q2 FY26 Earnings Conference Call”
November 10, 2025
MANAGEMENT: MR. RUSHIL THAKKAR – MANAGING DIRECTOR –
RUSHIL DECOR LIMITED MR. HIREN PADHYA – CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER – RUSHIL DECOR LIMITED
MODERATOR: MR. KARAN BHATELIA – ASIAN MARKET SECURITIES
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Moderator:
Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Rushil Decor Q2 FY26 Earnings
Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant’s lines will be in the listen mode only and there
will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you
need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing ‘*’ than ‘0’
on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
I now hand the conference over to Karan Bhatelia. Thank you and over to you, sir.
Karan Bhatelia:
Thank you. A very good afternoon and welcome all to Rushil Decor's Q2 FY26 Earnings
Conference Call hosted by Asian Market Securities. From the management side, we have Mr.
Rushil Thakkar, Managing Director and Mr. Hiren Padhya, CFO.
I now hand over call to Rushil Bhai for his opening remarks, post which we can open the floor
for Q&A. Thank you and over to you, sir.
Rushil Thakkar:
Thank you, Karan. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Rushil Decor Limited's
earnings conference call for the second quarter and half year ended 30th September, 2025. I
would like to thank you and thank everyone for joining us today. I am joined by our CFO, Mr.
Hiren Padhya. The investor presentation has been shared with the Stock Exchanges, and we
hope you had an opportunity to review the material in advance. Let me begin by sharing an
overview of our performance for the quarter.
After the temporary disruption in the operation during the first quarter, I am pleased to inform
you that our manufacturing facilities are now operating at optimum levels. The fire incident at
our Andhra Pradesh MDF facility is well behind us. And the business has returned to full
operation normalcy.
In the MDF business, the segment delivered a revenue of INR 1,695 million in Q2 FY26.
During the quarter, we faced external challenged such as a higher resin price and sourcing
issues for raw material, which impacted the performance slightly year-over-year. However, the
production resumed to the normal level with capacity utilization reaching 79% during the
quarter.
Domestic demand remained encouraging, supported by the steady activities in the housing and
furniture market, leading to a 5.2% year-over-year growth in Indian revenue. Export revenue
nearly doubled subsequently as the shipments resumed post-normalization of the planned
operations. However, on a year-over-year basis, export volumes was lower mainly due to
shipment delays arising from the U.S. tariff-related uncertainty and logistics challenges in the
selected markets.
On the realization side, we have recorded a 7.7% improvement year-over-year at the blended
level with both domestic and export realization showing a strong traction driven by a better
product mix and disciplined pricing strategy. Value-added MDF products contributed 45% by
quantity and 56% by value, reflecting our ongoing focus on a premium higher-margin
categories. The segment's EBITDA stood at INR 183 million with a margin of 10.8%.
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Moving to our laminate business. Revenue from the operations was INR 562 million in Q2
FY26 compared to INR 503 million in Q2 FY25. Export revenue grew by 8.9% year-over-year,
driven by improved realization in premium product categories and expansion into the new
international markets. The blended realization improved 4% year-over-year, supported by a
selective price adjustment and a higher share of premium products.
I am also pleased to share that Jumbo Laminate have started contributing to our revenues,
marking a key milestone in our growth journey. We have also commenced the trial production
for our Phase 2, which adds an additional capacity of 1.6 million sheets per annum.
With both phases in operation, we expect a meaningful scale up in the production volumes and
export contributions over the coming quarters. Furthermore, during the quarter, the company
added 10 new direct distributors and over 40 retailers and dealers, further expanding its
network. Continued participation in international exhibitions and customer engagements has
helped widen the export base and enhance brand visibility in overseas market.
On the sustainability front, we are continuing our plantation and agroforestry initiative across
Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka, which ensures the consistent raw material availability while
supporting the local communities. We have also initiated the plans for the solar rooftop
installations across our manufacturing facilities, which will further reduce our energy cost and
carbon footprint in the long run.
Looking ahead, we expect the momentum to sustain in the coming quarter, supported by the
incremental contribution from the Jumbo Laminate facility, improved capacity utilization in
MDF and continued expansion in the international markets. We remain committed to
disciplined execution, cost optimization and strengthening our brand presence globally.
That concludes my remarks. I would now like to hand over the call to our CFO, Mr. Hiren
Padhya, who will take you through the financial performance in greater details. Thank you.
Hiren Padhya:
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, Mr. Rushil. A warm welcome to all participants
joining us today. I will now take you through the financials and operational performance of
Rushil Decor Limited for the second quarter and first half of FY2026. A quarter marked by a
period of steady operational recovery as our business returned to normal levels after the
temporary disruption at the Andhra Pradesh MDF plant earlier this year. Production and
dispatches have stabilized. Capacity utilization in MDF has reached 79%, while laminate
operated at 90% utilization during the quarter.
Now turning to the consolidated financials. Revenue from operations for Q2 FY26 was INR
2,356 million, reflecting a
2.3% growth year-over-year and a strong 31.5% increase
sequentially, supported by normalization of operations and improvement in realizations across
both product categories. Gross profit for the quarter was INR 1,059 million with a margin of
44.9%. EBITDA was INR 225 million, representing a margin of 9.5%, while profit after tax
was INR 51 million with a margin of 2.2%.
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For the first half of FY26, revenue from operations stood at INR 4,148 million, lower by 8.9%
year-over-year, primarily due to the plant shutdown in Q1. Gross profit for the half year was
INR 1,803 million with a margin of 43.5%, gross margin. EBITDA for the same period stood
at INR 203 million, while the company reported a net loss of INR 89 million with the normal
operations now fully restored. We expect performance to improve in the second half.
Now moving to segment performance, starting with MDF. Revenue for MDF segment in Q2
FY26 was INR 1,695 million, a marginal decline of 1.3% year-over-year, but a strong
sequential growth of 36.4%, reflecting the resumption of operations at the Andhra Pradesh
facility. Domestic MDF revenue grew 5.2% year-over-year, supported by improved demand
and better pricing, while export revenue declined 22.9% year-over-year due to external
challenges such as the U.S. tariff issue. Despite this, export realization improved by 8.3%,
demonstrating our focus on enhancing value in key markets. Overall MDF EBITDA for Q2
FY26 was INR 183 million with a margin of 10.8%.
Realization improved across the board with blended realization up 7.7% year-over-year, driven
by a higher share of value-added products, which now contributes 45% by quantity and 56%
by value. For H1 FY26, MDF revenue was at INR 2,938 million, which is lower by 13.8%
year-over-year due to the production loss in Q1 FY26, while EBITDA was INR 110 million
with a margin of 3.7%.
Moving to our Laminate segment. The business continued its stable growth momentum. In Q2
FY26, laminate revenue increased by 8.9% year-over-year and 22.9% sequentially to INR 547
million. Domestic revenue grew 8.8% year-over-year, while export revenue rose 8.9% year-
over-year. Laminate EBITDA for the quarter was INR 42 million with a margin of 7.7%.
Blended realization improved 4% year-over-year with a strong growth in export realization,
which increased by 10.7%.
For the first half of FY26, Laminate revenue was INR 992 million, up 1.2% year-over-year
and EBITDA was INR 87 million with a margin of 8.8%. On the balance sheet front, the
company's net debt-to-equity ratio stood at 0.42x as of 30th September 2025, reflecting
continued financial prudence. In October 25, we received a INR 114 million from government
of Andhra Pradesh under the Industrial Development policy 2015-20, which includes power
subsidy and stamp duty reimbursement.
To summarize, the fire incident impact is now behind us and operations have fully stabilized,
while the quarter presented challenges such as higher raising prices external headwinds in
export, our improvement in realizations, higher general trade mix and expanding distributor
base have helped offset some of the pressure. With capacity utilization normalized and new
capacity contributing to the growth, we remain optimistic about delivering an improved
performance in the second half of the year.
Thank you for the attention. That concludes my remarks. I would now like to open the floor for
questions and answers.
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Moderator:
The first question comes from the line of Resha Mehta from Green Edge Wealth.
Resha Mehta:
So, my first question is on laminates. So why would the export volumes have seen a degrowth.
And what is the outlook here. Because as I understand, U.S. revenue is very small for us.
Hardly 2%, 3% revenue comes from the U.S. So why has there been a degrowth here?
Rushil Thakkar:
So basically, degrowth was because of two things. First was the resin pricing again because the
resin plays a major role in our laminate as a raw material. So we did an evaluation that we go
for a high-value production first. So the value-added products have played a substantial role
over there. And we will be recovering that by this quarter as well.
Hiren Padhya:
I think I would like to add one more thing as rightly pointed by Rushil Bhai. See, when we are
just having such a constraint in terms of raw material, we have just a strategic move of
deciding value-added products. So that is being reflected in our realization also. If you see
realization in this quarter, it has increased in both cases, domestic and export.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. But it has nothing to do with slow global growth or anything of that sort, right? The
outlook in terms of global and export laminates continues to be good. Would that be the right
understanding?
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes.
Resha Mehta:
So, with the existing capacity that we already had, I'm not talking about excluding the Jumbo
Laminate, the existing laminate capacity, what was the peak revenue possible here?
Rushil Thakkar:
So, typically when we see the production cycle of laminate. So we have a different product
mix altogether. So capacity utilization-wise, anything above 85% is considered as 100% and
plus in laminates. So we are already utilizing the existing capacity at the best level possible.
Resha Mehta:
So when we did around INR 200 crores revenue in Laminates in FY25, so that is basically
supposed to be the peak revenues for the existing laminate capacity, right?
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes. So It may vary 5% to 10%. But yes, according to product mix, if we have a good value
addition proportion going on at that point of time, so maybe 5% or 10% higher revenues can
be achieved from the existing capacity.
Resha Mehta:
For Phase 1 of Jumbo Laminate, what would be our current capacity utilization.
Rushil Thakkar:
It would be in the range of somewhere around 80% to 85%.
Resha Mehta:
So it's almost close to optimum level?
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes, we are already doing the existing capacity utilization at the optimal level possible.
Resha Mehta:
When you say existing, I'm meaning the Phase 1, right? The Phase 1 Jumbo.
Rushil Thakkar:
No. I'm talking about the old facility.
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Resha Mehta:
I'm referring to the Phase 1 Jumbo Laminate facility.
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes. So currently,
if you see for the Q1 FY26, we have applied for all
the required
certifications, which we require to export in the developed markets. And by September mid,
we received almost the confirmation and certifications from all the required certification
companies. So now on the utilization from Q3 FY26 will be optimal on that level. Currently,
the utilization won't be a higher side because of the certification is not in place. So the actual
capacity utilization will be noted from Q3 and Q4 FY26.
Resha Mehta:
So in 1 quarter, I mean, in the same quarter in Q3 itself, it would be possible to ramp up to
80%, 85% capacity of laminate, on a quarterly basis, not on an annualized basis.
Rushil Thakkar:
No, that won't be possible to optimize 80%, 85% in Q3 FY26 itself because it is subject to the
customer side also because once we got those certifications, the first time consignment will be
going to the customers in the countries. Once it is online and then we can achieve that. So it is
all about the time. So Q3 FY26 will be in optimization of somewhere around 30% to 40%.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. And what would be the exact capacity utilization in terms of Q4?
Rushil Thakkar:
For Q4, we are estimating around 50% to 55%.
Resha Mehta:
Right. And even in Jumbo Laminate, the optimum capacity utilization is the same at around
85% plus.
Rushil Thakkar:
The technology and everything remains the same. So the optimal level is considered to be the
80% and 85%.
Resha Mehta:
Got it. And what is the peak revenue that is possible from Phase 1 and 2 for Jumbo laminate.
Rushil Thakkar:
It depends, So if we consider according to the product mix, the average realization would be
somewhere around INR 100 to INR 125 crores.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. So what is the capex we put in for these 2 phases, Phase 1 and Phase 2.
Rushil Thakkar:
Together, we have kept the capex of somewhere around INR 100 crores.
Resha Mehta:
And that should generate, say, around INR 200 crore revenue both put together?
Rushil Thakkar:
So both put together would be doing the revenue of somewhere around INR 150 crores to INR
175 crores.
Resha Mehta:
Got it. And this is possible to achieve by the end of next financial year, right? FY27 by the end.
Rushil Thakkar:
For next financial year, yes, it is possible to achieve.
Resha Mehta:
Got it. And the other one was on the MDF. So are the thick and thin MDF capacities fungible?
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Rushil Thakkar:
So currently, our capacity altogether is 1,100 cubic meters per day, out of which 300 cubic
meters is from Chikmagalur in and 800 cubic meters is from Andhra Pradesh plant. Andhra
Pradesh plant has capacity to make MDF from 2 millimetres up to 30 millimetres and
Chikmagalur facility has capacity to make from 7 millimetres to 30 millimetres.
Resha Mehta:
Basically, it's not fungible, right? I mean you can't manufacture thick MDF in a thin MDF
plant and vice versa. Would that be fair to assume?
Rushil Thakkar:
No. So in Chikmagalur, thin MDF production is not possible. But Andhra Pradesh plant is all
advanced technology plant. So it is possible to make any thickness in them. And the capacity
has already been utilized at an optimal level.
Resha Mehta:
Got it. And in MDF, what led to improved realization. I mean price hikes or what would that
have been or increasing sales of value-added products? And also why was there a volume
degrowth in MDF too.
Rushil Thakkar:
So first answer is, yes, the value addition proportion has increased as well as the realization for
the quarter has also increased. So our target was to achieve 50% by value addition in terms of
quantity by the end of this financial year. So we are gearing up and have increased this to 45%
in Q2 FY26, which has added in additional revenue and our realization has also increased
subsequently for both exports and domestic. That was the first answer. So second answer is,
Yes, there was a crisis going on, on the side of resins because U.S. putting tariffs on Iranian
chemicals due to which there was a price rise in resin and which led to plant shutdown for a
couple of days because of which we were not able to produce the quantity and we were not
able to add that realization of that revenue to our top line as well.
Resha Mehta:
Sorry, so there was a plant shutdown of the resin supplier, right, not our plant. no.
Rushil Thakkar:
We had to shut down the plant for a day or 2 because of the resin crisis.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. So I mean, has the resin prices kind of cooled off? Or is it still as bad it was in Q2 FY26.
Rushil Thakkar:
No. Now it has been coming back to the place, and we don't see any crisis coming this quarter.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. And just a few bookkeeping questions. What is the tax rate guidance on an annualized
basis for FY26 and going ahead?
Hiren Padhya:
Tax 22% plus surcharge and health & education cess.
Resha Mehta:
Effectively, 27%?
Hiren Padhya:
No. It is around 25.17%.
Hiren Padhya:
We have 2 options. 30% and 22%. So we are just opting for that option. It is around 25%.
Resha Mehta:
Yes, 25%. Okay. And any update on the fire losses or the claim?
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Hiren Padhya:
Yes. The insurance companies, being government companies, where you know better, the way
they are just asking for the details, etc. So we have been giving complete details. And I think
the way things are moving, maybe, 1 or 2 weeks, we will be able to file the final claim latest
by this month end definitely. And this claim would be on two parts. One is like loss of material
and second part would be the loss of profit, both the policies, we already had.
Resha Mehta:
Okay. And lastly, what was the PVC and ply division's EBITDA margins in Q2 FY26.
Hiren Padhya:
In the case of PVC, the EBITDA margin was around 5% to 6% as of now. Whereas, earlier
quarters, and the last year, it was not good, but for the last 1 or 2 quarters, it has been
improving. And as of now, it is around 6%.
Resha Mehta:
And ply?
Hiren Padhya:
Ply is very minimal. I mean, the operations are very minimal. So it is not material. And if you
see our notes also in accounts, as of now, we are already having 51%, which we want to just
reduce over a period of time. So slowly, gradually, we will take a call.
Resha Mehta:
On the ply division, right?
Hiren Padhya:
Yes.
Moderator:
The next question comes from the line of Keshav from HDFC Securities.
Keshav:
Just wanted to understand one thing, what is the maximum capacity utilization for your MDF
plant.
Rushil Thakkar:
So if you see the utilization of our MDF plant, our Chikmagalur facility, we have utilized up to
120% also. And currently talking about the current Andhra Pradesh plant, the utilization can
again reach up to 100% and 105%. But currently, assuming and giving the guidance ahead, the
utilization may stand somewhere around 90%, 95% on the blended basis.
Keshav:
Understood. Got it. So in spite if you make more value-added with minimum utilization in
90%, 95%, because you know some of the peers talk about 85%, 90% is the peak utilization if
we go for value added. So that is the reason I'm asking the question means whether you will
face capacity constraint in the coming year FY27 and how you plan to go for it? Because if
you plan expansion, it will take time. So how are you seeing the future growth on MDF side?
Rushil Thakkar:
So currently, we have a capacity for making a value addition on this capacity itself. So for us,
currently, for next financial year also, the capacity is not remaining a concern for us.
Keshav:
Okay. Got it. And what sort of price hike you have taken in this quarter? And do you have any
further hike plan? And secondly, we are listing some of the bigger players are getting more
aggressive on the pricing side. So how do you see it?
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Rushil Thakkar:
So we gave guidance of 5% price hike in the last quarter concall, but somehow we were not
able to take it. So currently, the pricing are at the same level. And currently, the market is also
accepting the same prices. So we are not seeing any price hike further at this moment.
Keshav:
Got it. And the hike you have taken was only in the lower grade, not across all the grades. Is
this understanding fair?
Rushil Thakkar:
We tried to take a price hike across the all grades, but it didn't happen.
Keshav:
Okay. And when you expect that possibly the industry can take a price hike, how long it is and
might have impact on margin?
Rushil Thakkar:
So first, if we talk about the price hike, currently, we don't see any possibilities to take a price
hike because of the new capacities coming in. And if you see, there are a few more capacities,
which will be under the operation by next year as well and that too from the new players. So
we see a slightly difficult task to take a price hike.
Keshav:
By how much capacity is coming by the new player? And can you please tell which player you
are talking about?
Rushil Thakkar:
So there is a company called Elixer, which is coming up in Madhya Pradesh. I don't know the
rated capacity, what plant he has taken. And there is an M5 which is coming up in Kerala and
Action Tesa is coming up with its new capacity and there are 2, 3 more unorganized players
coming with the new capacity as well.
Keshav:
Any sense what would be the capacity addition for this and next year for the industry?
Rushil Thakkar:
I can get back to you with this question once I have the right information in hand.
Keshav:
Understood. One last question from my side, this resin price, which has increased. So how do
you see this impacting the margin?
Rushil Thakkar:
So if we see as an overall impact, so it was an impact of current 1% to 1.5%. But the threat
was about the supply not coming in even at the higher price of raw material paying. So that
was the bigger threat. But now it is stabilizing and the raw material pricing would remain same
but it will be a high price of 1% to 1.5%.
Keshav:
So you are saying that because of higher resin prices, EBITDA margins will be impacted by
100 to 150 bps. And that is factored in Q2 FY26 or we'll see that impact in Q3 FY26 also now.
Rushil Thakkar:
No, you will see the same resin prices for Q3 FY26 as well.
Keshav:
So whatever the impact of higher resin is there that is already factored in Q2 FY26. So because
of increase in resin prices, margin of Q3 FY26 won't be impacted at least sequentially, right?
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes.
Moderator:
The next question comes from the line of Deep Gandhi from Ithought PMS.
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Deep Gandhi:
So sir, first question is on the laminate side. So I think the initial understanding was that the
additional revenue from the Jumbo plant, both the cases was INR 300 crores also according to
the press release. But now I think you mentioned INR 150 crores, INR 175 crores. So can you
clarify this?
Hiren Padhya:
See, I think you are referring to the announcement, which was saying. I mean, the total
expansion in terms of Jumbo where there are 2 phases. And when we are saying a total
turnover of 250 or 270. That means on the first year, suppose when we start the production of
Phase 1 and Phase 2 and once it is stabilized in the first year, then total laminate segment will
have a revenue of around INR 250 crores to INR 270 crores.
If you consider Jumbo, I mean, a new project, optimum capacity, then after considering both
the phases and optimal capacity, then it can cross INR 200 crores.
Deep Gandhi:
Sure. So broadly, I mean, you meant that INR 200 crores will be from Jumbo business and
INR 100 crores will be the base Laminate business, right, whenever we reach INR 300 crores
total top line.
Hiren Padhya:
So in the first year, when we talk optimal capacity of Jumbo projects with both the phases
implemented, then the whole Laminate segment can go up to INR 450 crores to INR 500
crores in the next 2 to 3 years.
Deep Gandhi:
So say, at INR 400 crores, INR 450 crores, what will be the contribution of the Jumbo business?
Hiren Padhya:
Okay. Now the current EBITDA margin is in the range of 10% as of now. And the Jumbo will
have around 14% to 16%. So I think if you consider INR 400 crore turnover than 50-50, then
the blended margin should be in the range of 12% to 13% at least. It can be more.
Deep Gandhi:
Okay. Sir, I mean when you reach INR400 crores top line, 2 to 3 years down the line, what
will be the share of the Jumbo business at that point of time?
Rushil Thakkar:
The Jumbo business would be contributing somewhere around INR 120 crores to INR 150
crores.
Deep Gandhi:
Even at INR 400 crores 2, 3 years down the line when you reach peak utilization.
Rushil Thakkar:
No. This is just about the Phase 1. When we talk about Jumbo, so total capacity what we have
newly installed can go up to another INR 240 crores to INR 250 crores. So altogether, if we
put then the revenues would be somewhere around INR 400 crores to INR 500 crores.
Deep Gandhi:
Okay. So I mean you mean only about the Jumbo business now, right? Or you are also
including the traditional Laminates business.
Rushil Thakkar:
No, both Laminate business put together. So if you talk about percentage of new like Jumbo
and the existing one, the revenues would be 50%, 50%. And when you talk about just Jumbo
Laminate Phase 1 and Phase 2 put together, it will be somewhere around INR 240 crores to
INR 250 crores.
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Deep Gandhi:
That is helpful. Sir, second is I'm trying to understand more about the export orders, which you
have talked about in the press release. So I mean, can you quantify out of the total capacity
which you are setting up, both the sizes put together, how much of it is booked now through
export orders which you would have received?
Rushil Thakkar:
I need to calculate that how much percentage it is booked, but we have an assured orders from
a few of the countries, which are roughly standing to somewhere around 105 containers. But I
need to calculate in terms of capacity because there are too many thicknesses involved. And as
you know that laminate has too many different categories of products. So the output of the
production at the same time, some of the time may increase or some of that may decrease. So
actual, we need to calculate it out and we can reach out to you with the question.
Deep Gandhi:
Sure. If you don't have the numbers in terms of volumes, but say, when you reach INR 200
crores to INR 250 crores of peak revenue, any idea how much of that revenue visibility you
already have based on the orders we have received if you have the numbers for that, that will
also help.
Rushil Thakkar:
So for Q3 FY26 and Q4 FY26, our estimated export from the Jumbo business would be
somewhere around INR 25 crores to INR 30 crores. Because we just have got the certifications
in the end of like mid-September. So now we have started executing the trial orders with the
customers. So the cycle is a bit long because the delivery time to the countries where we are
exporting is also longer.
Deep Gandhi:
Sure. I was actually asking more about, say, for next 2, 3 years when you reach INR 200 crores,
INR 250 crores revenue in the Jumbo business, how much of that is already booked. Do you
have the numbers for that based on the orders we have received.
Rushil Thakkar:
So it is too early to comment on that because as I told you that we have already started
producing a trial order for the customers. And once the shipments which is there, then we can
talk about the next order. So the delivery time typically for this is roughly more than 45 days
once it is out on port. So still, we have started exporting as the first orders to our customers for
the countries where the certification is required. But as I have commented earlier in my speech
like Russia, we have an order of, I think, 15% to 20% of the capacity, which we already have
started exporting it where the certification is not required.
Deep Gandhi:
Sure. And sir, last question from my side. So the laminate EBITDA margins, which are
impacted this quarter. So is it only because of the raw material price increase? Or are there also
some upfront expenses which you would have done for the new plant commission.
Hiren Padhya:
Yes. See, if you see last quarter, the EBITDA margin of laminate was in the range of 9.7%,
9.8%. As against that, this quarter, the segmental, the EBITDA margin is around 7.7%. This is
mainly because of 2, 3 reasons. One is like, as you rightly pointed out, the couple of expense,
which has already started incurring in terms of Jumbo. So that impact, if we remove, then the
actual existing margin is in the range of 9.4%.
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As against that, there are small other expenses like the arrears of increment, which has been
affected in this particular quarter. And thirdly, again, there is a product mix, which also matters
on the margin. So all put together, the difference in margin of 2% to 3% is because of this. But
once we start the normal dispatch and production in Jumbo, this margin will again regain the
same level of around 10%.
Moderator:
The next question comes from the line of Madhur Rathi from Counter Cyclical Investments.
Madhur Rathi:
Sir, I wanted to understand with what time lag do we pass on raw material price increase or
decrease to our customers?
Rushil Thakkar:
So currently, we have not passed the price hike to customers in MDF or laminate industry.
Currently, the pricing are going on as of the requirement of the market, and we don't see an
MDF price hike happening soon.
Madhur Rathi:
Got it. Sir, I'm relatively new to the company, sir. So on the MDF business, it's more of a B2B
business, should it look at from an EBITDA per metric tonne perspective or EBITDA margin
perspective.
Rushil Thakkar:
So we consider it not metric tonne. We consider it as a CBM. So it's a cubic meter margins
what we see.
Madhur Rathi:
All right. Sir, so I'm trying to understand, what percentage of the raw material is wood. So this
45% gross margin that we are doing, what percentage would be wood cost and resin and all
other costs.
Rushil Thakkar:
So if we consider on the pricing point of side, so the wood would be somewhere standing at
27% of the Sales price and the resin would be somewhere around 21%.
Madhur Rathi:
Okay. Sir, with wood supply coming in, sir, how should we see our EBITDA per SCM or
EBITDA margin going forward. Sir, and on a steady-state basis, what kind of EBITDA per
SCM can we expect from the MDF business.
Rushil Thakkar:
So currently, the EBITDA margin, what we see, we are currently assuming that as an EBITDA
margin for Q3 FY26 and Q4 FY26.
Madhur Rathi:
Right. But sir, if I look at the MDF segment from a 2 to 3 year perspective, with wood prices
declining, so from that perspective, I'm trying to understand, should we look at still from
EBITDA per cubic meter or EBITDA margin? How should we look at it? And what can be the
steady state number for this figure?
Hiren Padhya:
See, I would rather say that in terms of both ways you can just calculate. One is like, as rightly
said, in terms of per CBM also, we can also say. So starting with the realization. But then the
realization is a subjective matter where we would not prefer. We generally consider the
percentage. So as Rushilbhai said that as of now, we are at around 11% EBITDA.
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Rushil Thakkar:
And coming back to your question that wood and everything. So it's a supply and demand ratio,
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right? When the new industry comes, there is a higher demand in the market. Once the
agroforestry stabilized or I say when the cycle is there of the crop cutting like 3 years or 5
years according to the state. At that point of time, when the supply is more, the pricing may go
down. But at the same point of time, new industries jumping in may take the demand, the extra
supply over there at the same pricing as well.
It may get a dip, but I don't know exactly for the Q4 FY26, what will be the sense. But
currently, we see the stable wood prices as of now for the Q3 FY26 as well.
Hiren Padhya:
So in short, I think we are just tracking EBITDA margin in terms of percentage rather than per
CBM because as we said, the realization may vary quarter-on-quarter. So I think it may not
have the right base. So generally, we consider percentage as a right base for practical aspects.
Moderator:
The next question comes from the line of Rahil from Sapphire Capital.
Rahil:
Sir, in the quarter 1 call, you had said, I believe, in terms of revenue guidance, you had said
INR 1,000 crores you expect in FY26, that's like 70% utilization at the Jumbo facility. But
now I don't think you're expecting the Jumbo facility to contribute at those utilization levels,
correct? So now going ahead, can you like give a revised outlook when it comes to the overall
business combined for the whole year?
Rushil Thakkar:
So currently, as you rightly said that we give a guidance for INR 1,000 crore plus, but we see
still INR 970 crores of top line expected in the year ended FY26.
Rahil:
How much, INR 970 crores?
Rushil Thakkar:
Yes. As we have started our operations from Singapore office as well. So Singapore office will
also contribute in terms of sales for that. So we still see ourselves as standing at INR 970
crores approximately at the year-end.
Rahil:
And with what kind of overall margins, EBITDA margins?
Rushil Thakkar:
At the percentage of somewhere around 10% to 12%.
Rahil:
And considering the new capacity in Jumbo ramping up, any sort of like idea for the next
financial year, what you have expecting in terms of your expectations for overall revenue and
margins, a rough idea?
Hiren Padhya:
Yes, I think the overall turnover, which we were expecting in the last quarter around INR
1,000 crores, which we are now, I mean, giving a guidance of INR 970 crores, which will
include on one side, the additional turnover from Jumbo.
And secondly, as Rushil bhai just suggested that we are just starting the operations of
Singapore also. So both together, we are just targeting to have a revenue of around INR 970
crores. And here, margin-wise, I think whatever margins we have given in terms of percentage,
that is around 11%, which we will maintain.
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Rahil:
That was for FY26, you've cleared. I'm asking for FY27.
Hiren Padhya:
Okay. FY27, additional turnover of Jumbo, see, as of now, we are targeting around INR 30
crores turnover from this financial year. As against that, the next financial year, we can expect
at least INR 100 crore turnover from Jumbo and additional turnover of Singapore also. So
approximately, I think we can expect INR 1,100 crores or INR 1,100 crores plus overall
turnover, including everything.
Rahil:
This Singapore business, can you give more details? So, you're saying additional from
Singapore. So how much this year, it will contribute and how much next year?
Hiren Padhya:
Exact details, I think we'll be able to give next quarter only. It has just started. So the basic
purpose of starting this operations at Singapore is like we already have operations and the sales
in laminate around 60% export, out of which we have 2 main territory. One is Middle East and
second is Far East.
Now we want to, I mean, focus into Far East area where we want to reduce the response time
at those couple of countries. And secondly, we want to increase the volume of business at that
particular location. So on one side, we'll have operations, the lines and office and everything
will start immediately. And then we'll start, I mean, increasing the volume also from this
location.
Rahil:
So, is it fair to say in FY27 next year, once Jumbo will ramp up to INR 100 crores and plus,
our margins can be 12% plus EBITDA?
Hiren Padhya:
Yes
Moderator:
As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Rushil
Thakkar for closing comments.
Rushil Thakkar:
Thank you all for taking the time and join us today and for your continued interest in Rushil
Decor. As we continue to navigate opportunities ahead, we'll remain committed for achieving
our strategic objectives and delivering consistent value to our stakeholders. For any other
further questions, please reach out our Investor Relations team at Churchgate Partners. Thank
you once again.
Moderator:
On behalf of Asian Market Securities, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us,
and you may now disconnect your lines
Notes:
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of the proceedings.
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