IIFL Finance Limited
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13analyst exchanges
5executives
Management on call
Nirmal Jain
MANAGING DIRECTOR – IIFL FINANCE LIMITED
R. Venkataraman
JOINT MANAGING
Venkatesh N
MANAGING DIRECTOR– IIFL SAMASTA FINANCE LIMITED
Girish Kousgi
MANAGING DIRECTOR AND
Kapish Jain
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER – IIFL FINANCE LIMITED
Key numbers — 40 extracted
rs,
INR1 lakh crore
INR1,08,000 crore
INR623 crore
24%
INR1,173 crore
80%
9%
38%
10%
INR1,08,180 crore
INR52,581,
Guidance — 20 items
Nirmal Jain
opening
“But on the whole, we believe that the business is at an inflection point with new leadership, a sharper product mix aligned to our core strength and improved underwriting, we expect consistent improvement trajectory in our housing finance business as well.”
Nirmal Jain
opening
“We expect continued momentum in our secured lending portfolio and further improvement in our asset quality, scaling up of co-lending as core engine of growth and further gains from AI-led productivity initiatives.”
Nirmal Jain
qa
“So that will be like a conclusion of the assessment process.”
Yash
qa
“Or will we kind of ask for a review or will be appeal for this?”
Yash
qa
“a demerger because we've been talking about this since 2 years, but it's always gotten to this next quarter or to the next year, to want to understand, are there any triggers or -- is there anything happening with regards to the demerger of IIFL Home Finance?”
Nirmal Jain
qa
“Obviously, they need to exit, and there will be the most elegant way to get it listed separately and give exit to private equity investor is through a demerger.”
Yash
qa
“I'm not saying this year or next year, I'm just asking...”
Nirmal Jain
qa
“No, even Samasta can get separated, so there will be demerger, there will be three entities.”
Deepak Poddar
qa
“And I think shortly, you expect some orders or some assessment to come out.”
Nirmal Jain
qa
“If there is any demand assessment in our other companies, 360 One or IIFL Facilities, they have raised some demand, then it will be contested and we'll go again appeal because we believe that those demands are not tenable.”
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
The industry's focus is clearly stepping towards asset quality, capital efficiency and a sustainable growth, supported by a tighter regulatory oversight and improved risk discipline.
— Nirmal Jain
We exited or scale down higher risk segment and strengthened our balance sheet.
— Nirmal Jain
Two, capital-efficient growth- co-lending and off-book partners at a bank; and three, AI-led operating model to drive productivity and risk control.
— Nirmal Jain
The business has come strongly post normalization with robust growth, stable yield and a very strong compliance and risk framework and this remains our primary growth engine.
— Nirmal Jain
In the last quarter, our AUM have remained flat and profitability remains subdued partly due to higher-than-expected stress in our legacy micro LAP portfolio.
— Nirmal Jain
The company maintains a cautious stance on the MSME and MFI segment, while they have really recovered well, and the collection efficiency continues to show a smart trajectory.
— Kapish Jain
So by when will we kind of understand the impact of this port because there are some speculative reports talking about INR300 crores to INR400 crores?
— Yash
See, significant decline will happen with credit cost because we see 120, 130 basis point decline in credit cost.
— Nirmal Jain
I don't think up to 4.5x is any challenge.
— Nirmal Jain
But whenever the gold prices go up, thenand you will see with other gold companies also, you have probably seen some decline also there.
— Nirmal Jain
We took a decision of not getting into prime because to start with, you will have a challenge on the margin.
— Girish Kousgi
If you look at any affordable company, once they reach a particular size, growing the book was a challenge.
— Girish Kousgi
And earlier, the challenge was growing the book was not a challenge.
— Girish Kousgi
Customer retention, book retention was a challenge.
— Girish Kousgi
And in terms of competition, huge opportunity, and we don't see any challenge at all in terms of growing our book.
— Girish Kousgi
Q&A — 13 exchanges
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Opening remarks
Kapish Jain
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for joining our quarter 4 earnings call for fiscal year 2025-'26. Joining on this call with me is our Managing Director, Mr. Nirmal Jain, our Joint Managing Director, Mr. R. Venkatraman, Along with them, we have Mr. Girish Kousgi, MD and CEO of IIFL Home finance; and Mr. Venkatesh N, who is the MD CEO for Samasta finance. With this introduction, I handover the call back to Nirmal to give you an update on the entire macro situation and the strategic elements on the company.
Nirmal Jain
Thank you, Kapish. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us this evening. And let me start with a brief perspective on the macro environment. So as you all know, the Indian economy continues to demonstrate resilience with steady GDP growth, moderating inflation and broadly supportive monetary stands. Importantly, credit demand, particularly from the retail and MSME segment remains strong and these are the sectors which are structurally under penetrated. In this backdrop, the NBFC sector is entering a more stable phase after a period of recalibration. The industry's focus is clearly stepping towards asset quality, capital efficiency and a sustainable growth, supported by a tighter regulatory oversight and improved risk discipline. And in this context, our strategy at IIFL has been deliberate and consistent. Over the past few quarters, we have repositioned ourselves in terms of the portfolio now towards secured lending. We exited or scale down higher risk segment and strength
Kapish Jain
Thank you very much, Nirmal. So while our investor presentation and the press release is already on our website for you to refer. However, to read out some of the critical numbers for the quarter, quarter 4 of fiscal '26. The consolidated profit after tax before non-controlling interest stands at INR623 crores, which is up by 24% on a quarter-on-quarter basis. And we recorded pre- provision operating profit of INR1,173 crores, which is up 80% Y-o-Y and 9% on a quarter-on- quarter basis. For the quarter, the consolidated loan AUM grew by 38% on a Y-o-Y basis, and up 10% on a quarter-on-quarter basis to close at INR1,08,180 crores, driven by gold, which closed at INR52,581, up by 150% on a Y-o-Y and 11% quarter-on-quarter basis with a healthy tonnage at 62 tons. If I need to further dissect the AUM, our core products, loan AUM comprising home, gold, MSME and microfinance are up 45% on a Y-o-Y and 11% on a quarter-over-quarter basis to INR1,04,198 crores and this segment aggregates around