TATATECH · Q1 FY27 · earnings call
TATATECH
Tata Technologies reported strong Q1 FY27 results with revenue growth of 4.3% QoQ and 25.2% YoY in constant currency. The company highlighted momentum in large deals, diversification across segments, and investments in AI-driven capabilities as key drivers. Margins improved slightly despite upfront investments for scaling strategic wins.




Key financials
| Total revenue | $175.4 million | QoQ 4.3%, YoY 25.2% |
| Services revenue | $136.6 million | QoQ 4.3%, YoY 24.4% |
| Technology Solutions revenue | $38.8 million | QoQ 4.2%, YoY 27.9% |
| Operating EBITDA | $28 million | 16.1% margin, up 10 bps QoQ |
Segment commentary
Automotive
Non-anchor revenue grew 6.7% QoQ and 56.3% YoY, reducing reliance on anchor accounts.
Aerospace
Revenue increased to $10.2 million, up 6.4% QoQ and 38.1% YoY.
IHM
Revenue reached approximately $15 million.
Guidance & outlook
- Strong double-digit organic revenue growth for FY27 with margin expansion through scale, utilization, AI efficiency, and disciplined cost management.
Notable quotes
“FY27 is poised to be a breakout year.”— Warren Harris
“We remain confident that prioritizing high-value turnkey engagements will create greater long-term value.”— Uttam Gujrati
Key takeaways
- Strong Q1 performance with revenue growth across segments.
- Diversification efforts reducing customer concentration.
- AI investments driving productivity and differentiation.
Risks flagged
- Temporary headwinds in Germany due to customer restructuring.
- Seasonality affecting Technology Solutions product business.
Educational analysis only. Not investment advice. Consult a
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Ref. No.: TTL/COSEC/SE/2026-27/42
July 21, 2026
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“Tata Technologies Limited
Q1 FY'27 Earnings Conference Call”
July 17, 2026
MANAGEMENT: MR. WARREN HARRIS – CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND
MANAGING DIRECTOR – TATA TECHNOLOGIES
MS. SUKANYA SADASIVAN – CHIEF TRANSFORMATION
OFFICER – TATA TECHNOLOGIES
MR. UTTAM GUJRATI – CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER –
TATA TECHNOLOGIES
MR. PRATEEK RAMPURIA – MANAGER – INVESTOR
RELATIONS – TATA TECHNOLOGIES
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Tata
Technologies 1Q FY27 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder,
all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there
will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the
presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during
the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star
then zero on your touchtone phone.
I now hand the conference over to Mr. Prateek Rampuria,
Manager, Investor Relations at Tata Technologies. Thank you,
and over to you, sir.
Prateek Rampuria: Hello, everyone, and a warm welcome to Tata Technologies Q1
FY27 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Prateek Rampuria, Manager,
Investor Relations at Tata Technologies. Joining us today from
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the management team are Mr. Warren Harris, Chief Executive
Officer and Managing Director; Ms. Sukanya Sadasivan, Chief
Transformation Officer; and Mr. Uttam Gujrati, Chief Financial
Officer.
We will begin today's call with opening remarks from the
management team, covering the company's performance for
the quarter and key business highlights followed by a Q&A
session. Before we proceed, I would like to remind everyone
that certain statements made during today's call may be
forward-looking in nature.
These statements should be viewed in conjunction with the
risks and uncertainties outlined in Slide 2 of our quarterly fact
sheet, which is available on our website. Our press release,
financial results and investor presentation have been
submitted to the stock exchanges and are also available on the
Investor Relations section of our website,
www.tatatechnologies.com. We trust you've had an
opportunity to review them.
With that, I now invite Warren to share his opening remarks.
Over to you, Warren.
Warren Harris: Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining
us today.
As we begin FY27, I want to be very clear about the way we see
the year ahead. FY26 was a year of transition and investment
for Tata Technologies. FY27 is poised to be a breakout year.
That confidence is not based on aspiration alone. It is based
on the quality of the demand we are seeing, the strength of our
order book, the momentum in large-deal conversion, the
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visibility we now have across our pipeline, and the operating
discipline we are bringing to margin expansion and
productivity improvement.
The first quarter reinforces that view.
For Q1 FY27, total revenue was $175.4 million, representing
growth of 4.3% quarter-on-quarter and 25.2% year-on-year
in constant currency. Services revenue was $136.6 million, up
4.3% quarter-on-quarter and 24.4% year-on-year in
constant currency, while Technology Solutions revenue was
$38.8 million, growing 4.2% quarter-on-quarter and 27.9%
year-on-year in constant currency. Services remains the
core engine of our business, representing approximately 78%
of total revenue.
Our operating EBITDA was approximately $28 million,
translating into an EBITDA margin of 16.1%, an increase of 10
basis points sequentially. Margin performance during the
quarter reflected a combination of business mix and the
deliberate upfront investments required to support the ramp-
up of several large strategic wins.
The external environment remains dynamic. Customers
continue to be selective in how they allocate engineering
budgets, particularly across the global automotive value chain.
But that selectivity is increasingly working in our favour.
Customers are prioritizing programs that accelerate product
launches, improve efficiency, reduce cost, strengthen software
capability and support the transition to intelligent, connected
software-defined products. That is precisely where Tata
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Technologies has been investing and where our capabilities
are becoming more relevant.
Over the last 2 years, we have deliberately built a more
resilient, diversified and future-ready Tata Technologies. We
have strengthened our customer portfolio, expanded our
global footprint, deepened our capabilities in high-growth
technology areas and positioned the company closer to where
long-term engineering and manufacturing transformation
spend is moving.
The quality of that growth is equally important.
Automotive remains our largest vertical, but the business is
becoming healthier and more diversified. Automotive non-
anchor revenue reached $43.9 million, growing 6.7% quarter-
on-quarter and 56.3% year-on-year, reflecting continued
progress in reducing customer concentration and expanding
our presence across global OEM.
Beyond automotive, we continue to see encouraging
momentum in our diversification strategy. Aerospace
revenue grew to approximately $10.2 million, up 6.4%
quarter-on-quarter and 38.1% year-on-year, while IHM
revenue reached approximately $15 million. Together,
Aerospace and IHM are becoming increasingly meaningful
contributors to growth and provide additional evidence that
our diversification strategy is delivering results.
We're also seeing encouraging geographic momentum. Europe
has become an increasingly important growth engine for the
business, supported by the successful integration of Es-Tec
and our growing presence across the region. Q1 revenue from
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Europe reached approximately $67.9 million, representing
growth of 10.1% quarter-on-quarter and reinforcing our belief
that the region will remain a significant contributor to future
expansion.
Germany continues to strengthen from a strategic white space
to one of our most important growth markets.
Specifically, BMW TechWorks continues to scale successfully
and has now crossed the milestone of 2,000 engineers. While
BMW TechWorks is not consolidated into Tata Technologies
revenue, it remains an important strategic relationship that
strengthens our software-led engineering credentials,
enhances our access to next-generation mobility programs
and reinforces our position as a trusted partner to one of the
world's leading automotive manufacturers.
Let me now turn to deal momentum.
During the quarter, we continued to see strong traction in large
strategic deal pursuits, reflecting customers' increasing
willingness to entrust Tata Technologies with business-critical
transformation initiatives. The most significant win was our
$100 million strategic engagement with Tenneco, which
expands our relationship beyond traditional engineering
services into a multiyear transformation program spanning
engineering, digital technologies, AI-enabled processes and
operational modernization.
We also secured a strategic engagement with a leading North
American industrial equipment manufacturer, expanding our
role across systems engineering, software engineering and
embedded software development. The program will leverage
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AI-enabled engineering methodologies to improve
development productivity, accelerate product realization and
reduce time to market.
In automotive, we deepened our relationship with a leading
global OEM through a Range Extender Vehicle program that
draws upon our capabilities across vehicle engineering,
powertrain integration, validation and systems development.
In addition, we were selected as a preferred engineering
partner by a leading off-highway manufacturer to support
both their new product development and total cost of
ownership optimization initiatives.
In addition to these new wins, we continue to make strong
progress on the strategically significant full vehicle
development program with a leading Japanese automotive
OEM that we discussed during our previous earnings call. What
makes this engagement particularly noteworthy is not simply
its scale, but what it represents. As many of you will
appreciate, Japanese OEMs have historically been highly
selective in their choice of engineering partners, particularly
for programs of this strategic importance to be entrusted with
the complete development of a vehicle program by a
customer with whom we had no prior relationship in this
space is a remarkable achievement and, in our view, a powerful
validation of the capabilities, credibility and value proposition
that Tata Technologies has built over many years.
This engagement reflects the growing confidence customers
place in our ability to deliver end-to-end product engineering
solutions across the entire vehicle lifecycle. It also
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demonstrates that our investments in vehicle engineering,
software-defined vehicles, systems engineering, validation,
manufacturing engineering and global delivery capability are
enabling us to compete for and win some of the most strategic
programs in the industry.
Collectively, these wins reinforce a clear trend. Customers are
increasingly engaged in Tata Technologies on larger multiyear
programs that combine engineering, software, AI and digital
transformation capabilities to accelerate innovation while
improving efficiency and competitiveness.
This is why our guidance for FY27 should be viewed with
confidence. Based on our current visibility, we continue to
expect strong double-digit organic revenue growth for FY27
with services as the primary growth engine and margin
expansion supported by scale, utilization, delivery
productivity, AI-led efficiency and disciplined cost
management.
AI remains a central pillar of this confidence.
Our AI strategy is built around 4 priorities: transforming service
delivery, building differentiated offerings, strengthening AI
partnerships and delivering AI-ready talent. We are anchoring
this strategy on enterprise-wide adoption with trust and
responsible AI built in from the start.
Through chromosome.ai, we are codifying decades of
engineering knowledge into repeatable frameworks,
accelerators and solutions that improve productivity, quality,
scalability and delivery speed. We see AI as both a margin lever
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and as a strategic differentiator, helping our clients engineer
better products faster and more efficiently.
Talent is the other half of this equation. Through TechVarsity,
our internal university, we have delivered over 9,000 learning
hours across GenAI, software-defined vehicles and
cybersecurity this quarter, strengthening capabilities of over
2,000 employees.
Customer recognition during the quarter has also reinforced
the progress we are making. Tata Technologies was honored
with JLR's Visionary Supplier Award in June 2026, recognizing
our role in supporting JLR's enterprise and manufacturing
transformation journey across multiple initiatives and
programs.
In summary, Q1 FY27 confirms that Tata Technologies is
entering the year with real momentum.
We have stronger visibility on growth. We've delivered 25.2%
year-on-year revenue growth in Q1, while continuing to
improve the quality of our portfolio through diversification,
large deal conversion, strategic customer wins and expanded
software and AI-led capabilities.
We are scaling in priority areas through initiatives such as Es-
Tec. We are improving diversification through continued
growth in automotive non-anchor accounts, Aerospace and
IHM while reducing our dependence on any single customer,
geography or end market. We are investing in AI as both the
delivery productivity lever and a differentiated customer
proposition, and we are translating this growth into margin
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expansion through productivity, utilization, operating
discipline and scale.
With that, let me hand it over to Uttam to take you through the
financial performance in more detail. Thank you.
Uttam Gujrati: Thank you, Warren, and good day. Thank you for joining us all.
Building on the business update shared by Warren, I will now
walk you through our financial performance for the first quarter
of FY27 and discuss the key drivers underpinning our results.
I am pleased to note that the growth momentum we had
established in the second half of FY26 has continued in Q1 with
Services segment growing 6.3% Q-o-Q in INRand 4.3% in
constant currency to INR 1,297 crores.
The Technology Solutions segment saw sequential revenue
growth of 4.3%, led by our education business, which saw 9.1%
growth, while the product business saw a degrowth of 2.6%,
primarily due to seasonality as it typically experiences strong
demand in the final quarter of the calendar year.
As a result, aggregate revenues increased 5.9% Q-o-Q in INR
and 4.3% in constant currency to INR 1,665 crores.
I'm particularly pleased with the quality of our revenue growth
this quarter, which once again underscores the diversified and
resilient nature of our business mix. While Warren touched
upon some of these trends, let me add a few data points that
further highlight the strength and balance of our portfolio.
Within automotive, our non-anchor business continued to
grow at a healthy pace, reflecting our success in broadening
customer relationships and diversifying revenue streams.
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Resultantly, the contribution from anchor accounts to our
services revenue reduced to 48.9% in Q1, an improvement of
150 basis points sequentially. This continued diversification
enhances the resilience of our revenue profile, while creating a
broader base for future growth.
We also saw encouraging momentum in our embedded and
software business, which grew 8.5% Q-o-Q in dollar terms. The
strong growth in embedded and software not only reflects the
increasing software content in vehicles, but also positions us
well to capitalize on the long-term industry shift towards
connected, autonomous and software-defined mobility
solutions.
We maintained strong operating discipline during the quarter
with operating expenses increasing 5.8%, slightly below
revenue growth of 5.9%. Resultantly, EBITDA grew 6.1%
sequentially to INR267 crores, while EBITDA margin improved
10 basis points Q-o-Q to 16.1%.
Margin performance during the quarter reflected a
combination of business mix and strategic investments to
support future growth. Our services business delivered a
healthy 120 basis points improvement in gross margins, which
was partly offset by 250 basis points decline in Technology
Solutions margins, resulting in an unfavourable mix impact.
In addition, several large strategic engagements and full
vehicle programs entered the mobilization phase during Q1,
requiring upfront investments in talent, ramp-up, capability
development, transition activities and delivery readiness
ahead of revenues reaching steady state levels. While these
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investments created some near-term margin dilution, they are
critical to successfully scaling these multiyear programs and
capturing the growth opportunity ahead.
We are also navigating some temporary headwinds within
parts of our Germany business as certain customers work
through restructuring and cost optimization initiatives. As we
implement annual wage increase in Q2, we expect to absorb
the associated cost impact, while still delivering sequential
margin improvement through operational discipline and
execution. While these factors may moderate the pace of
margin expansion in near term, they do not alter our
confidence in long-term opportunity.
Overall, our confidence in the growth outlook has strengthened
materially. As we move to FY27, we will continue to balance
investments required to capture this opportunity with our
commitment to margin improvement. We remain confident
that prioritizing high-value turnkey and end-to-end
engineering engagements today will create greater long-term
value, while supporting our medium-term margin ambitions.
Our operating profit or EBIT increased by 8.3% sequentially,
reaching to INR 239 crores.
Our partnership with BMW continues to scale well. BMW
TechWorks has now crossed a key milestone of 2,000
engineers and continues to strengthen our credentials in
software-led automotive engineering, while expanding our
participation in next-generation mobility programs.
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In Q1, our share of profit from the joint venture increased 43.5%
Q-o-Q to INR 9.5 crores, and the total contribution stood at
INR 17.8 crores, including the deferred income of INR8.3 crores.
Other income increased 19.3% Q-o-Q to INR 36.9 crores,
driven largely by a profit on sale of investments.
Profit before tax for the quarter was INR 252 crores compared
to INR 283 crores in the previous quarter. It is important to note
that Q4 included a onetime reversal of the provision related to
the new Labour Code. Excluding this nonrecurring benefit, our
underlying profitability improved meaningfully with PBT
increasing 10.8% Q-o-Q and PAT growing 11.3% sequentially to
INR 181 crores.
Maintaining a strong balance sheet with robust liquidity is a
key focus for us. At the end of Q1, the net cash position stood
at INR 880 crores, while the DSO remained stable at 97 days,
reflecting healthy collection efficiency. Our billed DSO came in
at 65 days compared with 59 days in Q4, while the unbilled
DSO were at 32 days compared with 36 days in Q4.
Moving on to the operational metrics, the highlights are as
follows:
Our total headcount stood at 12,579 associates at the end of
Q1, representing a net reduction of 67 employees or 0.5%
sequentially. This primarily reflects a continued optimization
of our delivery capacity with a balanced approach towards
managing the mix between full-time employees and
outsourced resources. As demand conditions continue to
improve and deal momentum strengthens, we remain
disciplined and selective in our hiring, focusing investments on
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strategic skill areas and growth priorities. This approach
enables us to align talent deployment with client demand while
maintaining operational efficiency and supporting future
growth.
Our talent metrics continue to remain healthy with trailing 12
months voluntary attrition declining to 16%, an improvement
of 20 basis points year-over-year. This reflects the strength of
our employee value proposition, investments in learning,
career development and our efforts to provide employees
with opportunities to work on leading-edge engineering and
digital transformation programs. We remain focused on
attracting, developing and retaining high-quality talent as we
prepare for our next phase of growth.
Building a future-ready workforce remains central to our
strategy as we scale in high-growth areas such as embedded
software, software-defined vehicles, cybersecurity, digital
engineering and AI-led engineering services. Our learning
ecosystem continued to gain traction with over 20,000
training hours delivered to 3,000-plus employees this quarter.
TechVarsity continues to be an important enabler of this
capacity building journey, having conducted 90-plus
programs, including focused technical learning across 40-plus
niche skills areas.
In summary, as we look ahead, we remain encouraged by the
healthier customer engagement levels we are seeing across
our key markets and by a constructive demand environment
that continues to support strategic investments in
engineering, digital transformation and next-generation
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mobility. While we remain mindful of the evolving
macroeconomic backdrop, our focus remains firmly on
disciplined execution, operational excellence and prudent
capital allocation. These priorities, together with our diversified
business mix and resilient margins, position us well to capture
emerging opportunities and continuing to invest in capabilities
that strengthen our long-term competitiveness. Above all, our
commitment remains unchanged to create a sustainable value
for all our stakeholders, including customers, employees,
shareholders and partners through consistent execution and
profitable growth.
Thank you, and we can now open the floor for questions.
Moderator Our first question comes from the line of Jyoti Singh with
Haitong. Please go ahead.
Jyoti Singh: Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations on the good
execution and also on the Tenneco deal. So, sir, largely, I
wanted to understand that you reiterated double-digit organic
growth for '27 after delivering a very strong number in Q1. So,
does this imply some moderation in H2 or has the visibility
actually improved further since the beginning of the quarter?
Warren Harris: Thanks for that question, Jyoti. I think, when we began the fiscal
year, we referenced double digits, our expectations for
double-digit growth. I think in the narrative that we've
surrounded the Q1 results, we've referred to strong confidence
in double-digit growth.
So, I think that as we've gone through the quarter, given deal
signings, given momentum, given the engagement that we've
got with customers, our confidence has only grown. So, we do
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not see a tapering of growth in the second half of the year. We
actually see growth accelerating as we move through the
quarters of this fiscal.
Jyoti Singh: Understood. And second question, are you seeing any OEMs
shifting engineering budgets away from EV platform toward
hybrid or ICE refresh program over the last 3 months? And how
is the demand we are getting from Europe and U.S.
Warren Harris: Yes. I think a great question. And certainly, we have, over the
last couple of years, start to see the investments in EVs
tapering and a much more balanced proposition as far as
propulsion options that our customers are building and
investing in. And that's great news for Tata Technologies
because as far as propulsion is concerned, we're agnostic. We
are, at the moment, delivering work packages and full vehicles
in the ICE, in the hybrid, plugged hybrid and full BEV arenas.
And again, the key driver to the improvement that we've seen
is that over the last kind of 18 months, demand has been
somewhat compromised by the tariff announcements and
again, that tapering of EV demand in geographies like the
United States. We're seeing those periods now start to come
to an end, clarity being provided for the customers that we're
working with. And based upon that clarity, investments are
being made, and we are very pleased that we've been on the
right side of that.
Jyoti Singh: Thank you, sir.
Moderator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ravi
Menon with Axis Capital.
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Ravi Menon: Hi, thank you for the opportunity. Congrats on a really good
quarter. One of you can as a kind of optimism of infectious. I
just wanted to understand, I mean, what's really underpinning
this because most of your peers who are the specialists seem
to be singing quite a different tune. So, is this about your client
portfolio being different, the service portfolio being different
or are you being a lot more diversified with clients or is this
about involvement in new hybrid platforms? What's actually
the reason why your outlook seems very different compared
to the peers?
Warren Harris: Yes. Great question, Ravi. And I think what's really playing out
is essentially the thesis around which we are investing and
growing the company. For some time, we have believed that as
the clock speed of technology change accelerates, we think
that our customers and the market will increasingly shrink their
focus on to the things that are core to the DNA of their brand,
and they will increasingly look to outsource.
And I think the propensity to outsource will be positioned
predominantly for those organizations like ourselves that have
demonstrated over many, many years, our ability to be able to
take on turnkey responsibility for complete work packages and
complete products. And that's really where we are seeing the
tailwinds that we are currently intersecting with.
And I think one of the associated points that I'd make is that
when a customer of ours makes a decision to outsource a
complete product, that decision is typically made at the top
end of that customer hierarchy. So it's typically made within
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the C-suite. So, it's the Chief Exec, it's the Head of Engineering
or it's the CTO.
Those relationships that we've cultivated over many, many
years give us the opportunity to not only influence product
engineering decisions, but also all outsourcing decisions. And
so we are seeing a broad-based improvement in demand. It's
certainly very much predicated upon the outsourcing of full
vehicles.
But the halo effect of that and the influence that, that affords
us has given us the opportunity to grow in a relatively broad-
based way. As Uttam pointed out, we've seen growth not just
in terms of engineering, but also in embedded software and
also in digital. And again, I think those represent proof points
of the principles that I've just shared.
Ravi Menon: Great. Thanks so much for a detailed answer. You spoke about
how it's turnkey engagements. So, can I think about the AI
impact as not being really deflationary for you? Is that
something that you're seeing? Because what kind of impact
that you're seeing at all on pricing?
Warren Harris: Yes. Great question, Ravi. I think one of the things that is
underpinning our value proposition on the full product space
is our ability to be able to deliver China speed and China cost
at the quality standards that the global automotive market
expects. Now we're doing that because we've had a footprint
in China for more than a decade now.
And so, we understand the players. We understand how they
do things. But we've been able to capitalize that experience
through the investments that we're making in AI. And so, the
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contribution that AI is making to us is really a force multiplier
in terms of productivity and a force multiplier in terms of being
able to do things that are increasingly difficult, not just for the
competition, but also in part for the industry at large.
If you look at many of the Western OEMs, they're still
developing vehicles at between 36 and 48 months. We are
routinely and have demonstrated this consistently able to
develop full vehicles and top hats anywhere between 18
months and 24 months. And again, we've demonstrated that,
and we've got vehicles on the road today that are, again, proof
points against those claims.
Ravi Menon: Great, thanks. So, then we can just say that we shouldn't think
of the volume of work is constant. Can we just think of that as
the product cycles are accelerating, but that's the real net
impact of AI and that we shouldn't just think of that as shrinking
the pie, right?
Warren Harris: I think that's a great way to summarize it.
Ravi Menon: Thanks so much, Warren. And Uttam, one clarification on the
technology product side, the margins are lower. What's the
reason for that this quarter?
Uttam Gujrati: So basically, that's a mix impact that we are seeing in the
Technology Solutions business. The education business grew
faster than the product piece in it. And this disproportionate
growth mix change within the two led to the declines in the
margins.
Ravi Menon: Thanks so much. Best of luck.
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Moderator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mayank
Babla with Carnelian AMC. Please go ahead.
Mayank Babla: Hi, thank you for taking my question. Am I audible?
Moderator; Yes sir, you’re audible. Please proceed.
Mayank Babla: So first of all, congratulations to Warren, Uttam and Vijay for a
great set of numbers and great execution. You have outdone
yourself. So, congratulations at first. My question first to
Warren is you announced the Tenneco deal and one full vehicle
program in Q1. Now last quarter, you had mentioned that you
were positive on closing 2 full vehicle programs in the next 8
to 12 weeks, out of which 1 you have already closed.
And I'm sure given the confident tone that you're speaking
with, you will be closing the second one soon. But could you
give us a sense of how many such full vehicle programs do you
have in pipeline now at this point in time that you are confident
of closing in?
Warren Harris: Well, thank you for the generous comments, first and foremost.
I think as you picked up, our confident tone is really informed
by the momentum that we continue to build in and around deal
signings -- large deal signings and specifically full vehicles.
We've pointed in the narrative and the press release that we've
accompanied the Q1 numbers or at least the deck that we
published.
We've pointed to a number of large deals. But that's not an
exclusive list. And so, we have closed additional business, and
we've taken that momentum into the second quarter. So, I'm
not at liberty to give you too many details in terms of customer
names or the size of these deals. And hopefully, we'll be able to
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share more at the end of Q2. But rest assured, the deal
momentum continues to build. And it's that, that really gives
us renewed confidence in the guidance that we've previously
shared.
Mayank Babla: Sure, sure. My second question is in 2 parts. The first part to
Uttam, if you could give us the Aerospace revenue and the Q-
o-Q and Y-o-Y performance in this quarter. And then the
second part, I'll address to Warren, is that if you could give us
some outlook? I know you don't give guidance, but
qualitatively, if you could give us a direction of how big this
vertical can be so that we can get a grip on the size and scale
of opportunity, especially given that Airbus has announced a
new clean-sheet program last year. So yes, these were the 2-
part questions.
Uttam Gujrati: So, let me go with the Aerospace piece first. Our Aerospace
revenues grew to approximately $10.2 million. This was up 6.4%
Q-o-Q and 38.1% Y-o-Y. And the second question, what you
had was...
Warren Harris: It relates to what the potential can be for the Aerospace
vertical. I think we have consistently messaged in the last
couple of years our confidence in scaling this vertical at a
faster rate than the automotive sector. And that's driven by a
number of different things. It's been driven by the fact that
we've been able to secure an involvement in Airbus' strategic
supplier outsourcing list. It's been informed by the investments
that the Tata Group is making in Aerospace.
It's informed by the fact that the demand for air travel is
increasingly being centered upon Southeast Asia and
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specifically here in India, and by association, the fact that there
is going to be a significant amount of infrastructure investment
in things like MRO capabilities and assembly and build
capabilities here.
So, the growth that we've seen in the last 4, 5 years, which I
think has represented a CAGR of about 40%. I think that is a
CAGR that we can continue. And I certainly think in the next
couple of 3 years, I think that we can trend very successfully
towards the $100 million target for Aerospace. Now how
quickly we get there will depend upon a number of factors.
But I think that we've cemented not only the relationship with
Airbus, but with key components of Airbus’s supply chain. And
we've also been able to build very strong relationship with
some of the propulsion players in North America. So, the
growth now is not just predicated upon a single customer. It's
much more broad-based and by association, it's much
healthier.
Moderator: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ankur
Pant with IIFL. Please go ahead.
Ankur Pant: Hi, Warren. Hi, Uttam. Congratulations on a good set of results.
So, my first question is picking on Warren statement that you
expect growth to accelerate towards the second half of the
year. So, when you say accelerate, does it mean that from the...
Moderator: Really sorry to interrupt. Ankur sir, your voice is slightly muffled.
Ankur Pant: Is it better now?
Moderator: This is much better. Yes, sir.
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Ankur Pant: Yes. So, I'll repeat my question. My question is that Warren
highlighted that he expects an acceleration in growth towards
the second half of the year. So just wanted to understand that
we've achieved 4.3% growth this quarter. Is that the
benchmark that we are using to say that the growth would be
accelerated in 2H? That is my first question.
Warren Harris: I think we will maintain guidance in terms of double-digit
growth. And I think in terms of the quantum of growth that we
will drive in Q2, Q3 and Q4, in part will be driven by the ramp-
up of the deals that we have closed. And our ability to ramp up
is dependent not just upon the teams that we can mobilize,
but also the readiness of our customers and the investments
that need to be made in infrastructure. I expect growth to be
much greater in the second half of the year than in the first half
of the year. But how that spreads across the quarters will be
predicated upon the factors that I just referred.
Ankur Pant: And the other question is, given the investments that we are
making on the wage hikes that are coming up in 2Q, do we see
the same, are we sticking to the same guidance that we said in
the past of 18% EBITDA margins by 4Q of the year? Or does
that also change given in the light of the investment?
Uttam Gujrati: So, as I said, rather than focusing on any specific margin
milestone, we would emphasize that we are materially more
confident on our growth trajectory that we are seeing. Given
the strong demand and the healthy deal momentum, we would
seek this opportunity to accelerate growth without
compromising on our ambition of quarter-over-quarter
margin expansion.
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As also mentioned in my initial remarks, the quarter 2
profitability outlook will continue to see quarter-over-quarter
growth, which should take care of our -- the point that you just
outlined about the salary increases. So, our quarter-over-
quarter expansion would continue.
Ankur Pant: Thank you. All the best.
Moderator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Dev Gulwani with
Care PMS. Please go ahead.
Dev Gulwani: Now that the Es-Tec acquisition in BMW JV has been more
than a few quarters, has company started cross-selling
additional services to customers like Volkswagen and BMW?
And how do you expect this to contribute to revenue going
forward?
Warren Harris: The short answer is yes. And we've been very pleased with the
momentum, both at BMW and at VW. Obviously, the Es-Tec
acquisition was only completed in November of last year. And
so, the cross-selling is at a less mature stage than we're seeing
at BMW. But one of the things that we've been really pleased
about is that as part of the building of the partnership with
BMW and as part of the due diligence we did at Es-Tec, we
took the opportunity to sanity check our strategy with the
leadership teams of both of those companies. And so again,
that's provided us with access. It's provided us with influence.
And because of the increasingly good standing of BMW
TechWorks, our JV with BMW, that's affording us doors to be
opened and influence to be had directly, which we are fully
harvesting. And notwithstanding the challenges and the
restructuring that VW is going through, we always believed
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that the platform that we've established with Es-Tec will
support not just direct business through Es-Tec, but
increasingly the strategy of VW to balance their R&D
concentration across different geographies. And again, part of
the pipeline that we are building is very much consistent with
that.
Dev Gulwani: Okay. And this is for Mr. Uttam, can you provide the revenue
contribution of Es-Tec in Q1 FY27? I think I missed this.
Uttam Gujrati: We do not provide specific details around the acquisitions.
The larger business compositions and details have already
been shared. So, we would want to stick to that.
Dev Gulwani: Okay. And you mentioned that software-enabled solutions
grew by 8.5% Q-o-Q. Can you provide the absolute numbers
for this quarter for the software solutions?
Uttam Gujrati: While I would do the same thing as you would do, we can
calculate it. We have the total numbers with us.
Dev Gulwani: Okay. Thank you.
Moderator Your next question comes from Vaibhav Chechani with TCG
AMC. Please go ahead.
Vaibhav Chechani: Yes. Congratulations on a great set of numbers. So, my
question is around Tenneco deal win. So, this is a big deal win
market deal win for us. So, is it like a new deal win with the
existing clients that we have done? And what sort of work we
would be doing here because it contains business process
transformation. So, would that be right to assume that more
sort of offshore nature deals it would be? And the ramp-up, so
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when will the ramp up? And will that be needing any more
subcontracting in this? And then the selection criteria?
Warren Harris: Thanks, Vaibhav, and a great question. And I was hoping that
somebody would ask about Tenneco because it's something I
wanted to really celebrate. It is a milestone transaction for us.
We've been working with Tenneco in the engineering space for
the best part of 6 years. We established a relationship with
them during the pandemic. And we have really cemented a
very strong and strategic relationship with the senior
leadership team at Tenneco.
Tenneco, as you probably might know, was a listed company
in the United States, and then Apollo bought them out a couple
of, I think, almost 3 years ago now and are accelerating a
significant restructuring and transformation that has already
delivered significant improvements in the financial results of
that company.
We are engaging with them, not just in engineering, but in areas
such as program management and supply chain development,
process optimization and the work that they're doing in and
around their digital transformation. The deal was celebrated
and won last quarter. We are beginning execution in the
second quarter, and we will ramp through this fiscal year.
I think that it's an important deal for us, not just because of the
revenue that it represents, but because I think it represents a
blueprint of what is likely to go on within the manufacturing
space going forward. I think the joint venture with BMW is a
best practice demonstration of how to stand up a GCC. And I
think that will influence other OEMs. And I think what we've
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done with Tenneco will really position a great example and a
blueprint for what will happen within the extended supply
chain.
And so, for us, these deals are not just, again, important in
terms of the contribution that they represent to growth,
they're incredibly important in terms of the demonstration of
the strategic nature of the relationships that we are building
and also the direction that we believe that deals like this will
provide as a signal to the rest of the industry.
Vaibhav Chechani: Okay. And when can we expect when the deal will be
ramping up? And are we expecting any increased cost for the
deal ramp-up?
Warren Harris: We will start ramping up in the second quarter, and we will look
to scale towards the end of the calendar year and as we finish
this fiscal year and move into the next. It's a 5-year deal, and
there is a certain small element of renewal in terms of existing
business because we're wrapping that into the deal, but the
majority of this deal is new business.
And so certainly, there is capacity that we will be discharging
from within the company. But as we go through the ramp-up,
we will certainly be bringing in additional headcount, which by
association will represent additional cost.
Vaibhav Chechani: Okay. And the last part to it is, what is the count of
people we are having with BMW? And are we sharing any profit
from the JVs in this quarter? Thank you.
Uttam Gujrati: Yes. As we mentioned, the headcount in our BMW TechWorks
has crossed the key milestone of 2,000 engineers. So that will
continue as the entity grows. In terms of our share of profit, as
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I already outlined, it stands at INR 9.5 crores for Q1. And if I
include the deferred income piece of INR 8.3 crores, the total
contribution from the JV for quarter one stands at INR17.8
crores.
Vaibhav Chechani: Thank you. Sorry, I miss that part. Yeah, thank you.
Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Puneet Lineswala
with Winvestments.
Puneet Lineswala: Hi, Warren. Hi to the entire team. And once again,
congratulations for the great numbers and delivered as
committed. I had a question regarding to the non-Tata Motors
segment of business, which we have like in the Tata Group
itself, but excluding Tata Motors. So, if you could throw some
light on the business from Tata Advanced Systems, that would
be great?
Warren Harris: We're not going to talk about any specific customers. But what
I will say is that the growth outside of our anchor accounts is
scaling and expanding faster than the growth with our anchor
customers. So that is very much a part of our diversification
strategy, and we expect that to continue certainly medium to
long-term. There may be some spikes during different
quarters as we secure different program opportunities on both
sides of that particular challenge.
I mentioned in my opening comments, the pride that I have in
what we're seeing in automotive outside of the group. We grew
that 6.7% quarter-on-quarter and 56% year-on-year, which I
think, again, is a great testament to our teams, to the
relationships that we've got, and the fact that we stuck with it
during a pause in investments, that some of our customers
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were making as they were grappling to come to terms with
tariffs and the slowing of the EV transition. So, we're very, very
pleased with the bounce back that we've seen there and the
growing momentum that we're building.
Puneet Lineswala: My next question was to get an understanding about the
trajectory ahead and the overall business. I just wanted to
understand what are your learnings from the previous couple
of years, that you would like to optimize moving ahead?
Warren Harris: That's a great question, and it's part of what we're grappling
with. I think, if I look at learnings for the past, particularly in
terms of full vehicles, we did a lot of business with new energy
vehicle companies like VinFast and NIO when it was first
launched in China. And the great news for us in terms of the
experience that we had with those companies is that it
exposed us to a great deal of innovation, product innovation,
process innovation and speed to market innovation.
But I think one of the challenges that it represented for us is
that, that space is relatively volatile in terms of demand. They
typically invest in product. They then look to test the market.
And dependent upon the success of the product in the
market, they then invest in follow-on products. And whilst,
again, those relationships have been important to us and have
taught us a great deal. They've been challenging in terms of the
consistency and the predictability of revenue.
So, one of the things that we've really focused upon in the last
2 years is delivering that same value proposition to the
traditional OEMs. And there, we see demand being much more
consistent, much more stable, and we see our ability to move
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from one program to another with the same and increased
headcount in a way that's always very difficult to do in the new
energy vehicle space.
So, I think the quality of revenue is something that we've
worked very, very hard to improve. And much of the work that
we've done has been informed by the experience that we've
had in those different areas. I trust that answers the question.
Puneet Lineswala: Thank you so much. I'm really happy you answered those
questions really well, and you have my confidence as an
investor moving forward.
Warren Harris: Thank you, sir.
Moderator: The next question comes from the line of Karan Uppal from
Phillip Capital (India). Please go ahead.
Karan Uppal: Yes. Thanks for the opportunity. Just wanted to check within
automotive, how much is the contribution of anchor and non-
anchor at this point of time? I'm not sure if you have shared
this number in the call as well?
Uttam Gujrati: So, of our overall non-anchor from our Services business
stands at about roughly 49%. And if I look at the distribution of
my non-anchor business within the total automotive, it is
about 36%.
Karan Uppal: Okay. So, one in terms of the outlook for this year, double-digit
growth, how are you factoring in the growth within anchor and
non-anchor? How is the growth outlook within these two sub-
segments? That is one. And second is in terms of the non-
anchor how much is the contribution between US and Europe
OEMs?
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Warren Harris: I think the good news for us is that the growth is relatively
broad-based, from both in terms of anchor and non-anchor
and also geography. The Tenneco deal, for instance, is a US
deal. And so that will certainly make a major contribution to
our growth in that geography.
So, I think the growth is relatively consistent. We are seeing an
uptick despite some of the headwinds associated with the
performance challenges that some of the German OEMs have
got. We've seen an uptick in Germany. We expect that to
continue. We are very much -- we're very pleased with the
momentum in Scandinavia. I think we've shared with investors
in the past the fact that we were successful in securing a
position within the consolidated strategic supply chain of
Volvo, and that is seeing our revenues with that customer
scale.
The Japanese OEM win that we celebrated last quarter, and
we're now scaling up is starting to provide opportunity for us
to address that white space geography for Tata Technologies.
We've not done a great deal in Japan in the past. So not only is
that win a sizable win, it's also a very strategically important
win for us. So, a relatively long-winded answer to the question,
but I think net-net, it's broad-based and relatively consistent
across the different ways in which we measure our revenues.
Karan Uppal: Got it. Got it. And the second part of the question. The non-
anchor part of it, what is the contribution of US versus
European?
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Warren Harris: We don't break it out at a sector level. But the revenue mix of
our company today is relatively, again, balanced between the
three major regions: Asia, Europe and North America.
Karan Uppal: Got it. Thanks a lot. And all the best.
Moderator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as our last
question for today. I now hand the conference over to Mr.
Prateek Rampuria for closing comments.
Prateek Rampuria: Thank you, everyone, for joining Tata Technologies Q1 FY27
earnings conference call. We appreciate your continued
interest and engagement. We hope the management
discussion and Q&A have addressed your key queries. If you
have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to the
Investor Relations team, and we will be happy to assist. Thank
you once again for your participation. Operator, you may now
close.
Moderator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Tata
Technologies Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank
you, everyone, for joining us, and you may now disconnect your
lines. Thank you.
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