Affle 3i Limited
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10analyst exchanges
3executives
Management on call
Anuj Khanna Sohum
Managing Director & Chief
Kapil Bhutani
Chief Financial & Operations Officer
Rahul Jain
Dolat Capital Market Private Limited
Key numbers — 40 extracted
6.5X
100%
63%
123%
73.3%
56.5 million
91.1%
Rs. 51.1
195 million
45%
67%
33%
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Guidance — 20 items
Anuj Khanna Sohum
opening
“Our cashflow from operations increased by about 100% y-o-y in FY2022, a CAGR of about 63% since FY2019.”
Anuj Khanna Sohum
opening
“We delivered revenue growth of approximately 123% y-o-y this quarter and achieved Q4 Revenue CAGR of 73.3% over the last 3-year period, much ahead of the industry growth trend.”
Rahul Jain
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“Just wanted to understand from Anuj, the potential of the growth going forward specifically in the light of the pain that you may see from the funding of the startups in the near future as hinted by inputs from some of the large investors such as SoftBank and Tiger Global.”
Rahul Jain
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“All of those factors taken into account, what we have delivered in last quarter is the best validation of our resilience that one should expect going forward.”
Rahul Jain
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“Therefore, I would not be on the back foot with respect to how the advertiser trends are going, rather we should be optimistic about how Affle will continue to deliver growth going forward.”
Rahul Jain
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“If you could shed color on how the tech capitalization and Free cash flows have played out this year and also input on the plans going forward?”
Kapil Bhutani
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“There was no overshooting of the expenditure there and we expect good results coming from those innovations.”
Kapil Bhutani
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“Our plan for the next year is for about 4% of the revenue to be invested in innovations i.e around 4% +/- 25 basis points variation, would be the plan to invest.”
Anuj Khanna Sohum
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“I do not expect any dramatic changes with respect to our ability to earn a bottom-line sensible margin growth performance for the company.”
Anuj Khanna Sohum
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“We are looking at the next 24 months closely to 9 Affle (India) Limited May 16, 2022 transform it to mid to high teens in terms of its bottom-line performance and that alone should impact the overall bottom line margin performance of the company towards the kind of numbers that we hope to achieve.”
Risks & concerns — 14 flagged
Also, even from the lens where let us say that working with startup is important, but important point to factor in is what kind of startup are we working with and how much credit risk are we going to take from that?
— Rahul Jain
Even if they come with a bigger budget, sometimes we decline it.
— Rahul Jain
We say no and can only take customers based on our credit risk management framework.
— Rahul Jain
If that is your concern, I do not believe there is anything immediately to be worries about because a lot of funding was raised in the previous years, so it is not a concern at the moment for us.
— Kapil Bhutani
Also, certain comments related to the potential slowdown in the budgets given the macro situation that we are seeing.
— Rahul Jain
Are we also seeing any potential impact of these things coming to us at some point in time?
— Rahul Jain
We can have direct control over how much revenue from a particular customer and what kind of risk management & sustainable growth trajectory we take on that basis.
— Anuj Khanna Sohum
I believe we should not have any risk factor concerns with respect to the quality of revenue or the ability to retain these customers or to continue to grow on these customers.
— Anuj Khanna Sohum
From that perspective, can we rule out that we would do any big acquisition in the near future because if we do so then it will drag our financials?
— Vikas Mistry
To give you an example, there was an impact of about 3.2% from last quarter and it was about a third of the impact in Q3, so it is variable to the general price index and the counter impact goes into the foreign exchange calculations on the other income side which are not taken into the EBITDA calculations.
— Kapil Bhutani
It gives me a lot of confidence that we are doing it even with tough macroeconomic conditions and geopolitical risk factors which are there.
— Anuj Khanna Sohum
Therefore, there is no pressure to necessarily go and do something inorganic.
— Anmol Garg
When we find the right target without any pressure and the right strategic fitment that we see will help the company whether in India or internationally, then we will certainly execute sensibly and carefully as we have always done.
— Anmol Garg
There is absolutely no pressure and we will do a sensible inorganic growth plan.
— Anmol Garg
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Opening remarks
Rahul Jain
Thank you Deeksha. Good morning everyone. On behalf of Dolat Capital, we welcome you all to the Q4 and 12M FY2022 conference call of Affle (India) limited. I take this opportunity to welcome the management of Affle (India) Limited represented by a Mr. Anuj Khanna Sohum who is the MD & CEO of the Company, and Mr. Kapil Bhutani, who is CFO of the Company. Before we begin with the discussion, I would like to remind you that some of the statements made in today’s conference call may be forward-looking in nature and may involve some risks and uncertainties. Kindly refer to slide #25 of the Company’s Q4 earnings presentation for a detailed disclaimer on the same. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Anuj Khanna Sohum for his opening remarks. Thanks and over to you Anuj!
Anuj Khanna Sohum
Good morning everyone and thank you for joining the call today. I trust all of you are keeping in good health. Affle delivered another quarter of landmark performance to conclude FY2022 as our strongest growth year, anchored on our entrepreneurial culture, tech innovations and sustainable value creation powered by our Affle2.0 Consumer Platform Stack. I am incredibly proud that in the last 5 financial years since FY2018 since our initial DRHP was filed, our team has delivered over 6.5X growth in topline and profitability, a fact which stands further grounded given it was a consistent y-o-y growth coming across the quarters. Our cashflow from operations increased by about 100% y-o-y in FY2022, a CAGR of about 63% since FY2019. We delivered revenue growth of approximately 123% y-o-y this quarter and achieved Q4 Revenue CAGR of 73.3% over the last 3-year period, much ahead of the industry growth trend. Inspite of the Q3 to Q4 seasonality, our CPCU business noted a strong momentum deliveri
Kapil Bhutani
Thank you Anuj. Trust all of you are keeping in good health. Continuing our growth momentum of clocking over 120% y-o-y growth in last two quarters, Our Q4 FY2022 revenue stood at Rs. 3,151 million, a strong growth of 122.6% y-o-y. We concluded the financial year with a revenue of Rs. 10,817 million, a growth of 109.3% y-o-y, driven by robust contribution from organic growth and from Jampp. Our reported EBITDA for the quarter stood at Rs. 587 million, an increase of 70.2% y-o-y while for FY2022, EBITDA stood at Rs. 2,135 million, an increase of 63.8% y- o-y. Kindly refer to our note on Hyper-Inflation Accounting with respect to our step- down subsidiary in Argentina, given on slide 5 of our Earnings Presentation. In regards to that, our adjusted EBITDA for Q4 FY2022 stood at Rs. 607 million at a margin of 19.3%. As you are aware that our third quarter in any year is the highest quarter due to seasonality. However, the cost of operations in Q4 is generally equal to Q3 and hence the EBIT
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