Bharat Electronics Limited
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29turns
4analyst exchanges
4executives
Management on call
Renu Baid
IIFL Securities Limited
Dinesh Batra
Director (Finance) -Bharat
Damodar Bhattad
General Manager
Sreenivas
Company Secretary- Bharat
Key numbers — 40 extracted
3064 Crore
95%
578 Crore
431
Crore
15%
21%
23%
61.95%
64.95%
3%
200 BPS
60%
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Guidance — 20 items
Ankur Sharma
opening
“BHARATRFCmON/CS Anandi Ramalingam: Yes we are still retaining the guidance of 18 to 19; in fact we are hoping that we will be able to touch 20000 Crores of order equation this year.”
Ankur Sharma
opening
“From civil side also some 500 Crores will be there minimum of 500 Crores this will still be maintained, so over and above the base whatever is the major order I have just listed above.”
Amit Bhinde
opening
“Anandi Ramalingam: No, it is not that see as I told you for the remaining projects also clear commitment we have not got as far as the semiconductors are concerned so wherever the semiconductor commitments have been received by us based on that we are giving a guidance of 15%.”
Amit Bhinde
opening
“Anandi Ramalingam: Yes it will be difficult for us to tell.”
Amit Bhinde
opening
“See finally even if we get the commitment we need to see whether we have the capacity, we have the SDUS which we will be able to handle them , so all these issues will be discussed as and when it comes through but there is a possibility that it can go up if all these issues are resolved but we also do not want to give some commitment or something which we are not very sure of.”
Amit Bhinde
opening
“Dinesh Batra: As you said 17900 around but we will be able to clock some 15% will be coming from the civil segment.”
Dinesh Batra
opening
“Today what I am saying out of 18000 Crores around the 15% will be coming in this year from the civil segment.”
Dinesh Batra
qa
“Palasamudram there was an issue of certain limitations being put up by the authority as they had brought it under the red zone and certain clarifications, etc., were required so those things discussions are going on and I am quite hopeful that now our building plans, etc., will be finalized after getting the clarification from the Andhra Pradesh Industrial Authorities and all other projects are underway, whatever capex we had planned.”
Harshit Patel
qa
“Initially do not know the number that we take right now they may go in for some 60% of imported or 50% of indigenous that is not yet finalized the proportion is not yet finalized, the ratio is not finalized so post which we will be able to give you a firm indication of our contribution to LCA Mark 1A.”
Abhijit Mitra
qa
“Anandi Ramalingam: Completely it will be produced in India.”
Risks & concerns — 2 flagged
Anandi Ramalingam: Yes it will be difficult for us to tell.
— Amit Bhinde
18000 Crores get executed so it will be standing around Rs.60000 Crores next year and that will get again executed next two to three to four years so it is a dynamic thing it is very difficult to say that the whole thing will get executed.
— Dinesh Batra
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Opening remarks
Ankur Sharma
Okay perfect. That is good to know. Madam second question would be on the order inflows. Clearly Q1 obviously has always been a weakest quarter the first half normally is a weakest quarter for us and it has always been more of a second half when we see a substantial pickup in ordering so if you could just highlight the mix of orders which you expect to book this year both the larger size and the regular radars and the smaller size, the optronics and the communication devices, etc., so just some colour there, which are some of the larger projects and some medium size projects which you think could come our way to kind of help us get to that 18000 to 19000 Crores number which we are targeting for this year? BHARATRFCmON/CS Anandi Ramalingam: Yes we are still retaining the guidance of 18 to 19; in fact we are hoping that we will be able to touch 20000 Crores of order equation this year. As of now I think around 850 Crores has been acquired by us and the major projects which we are likely
Ankur Sharma
Great. Just a last question. We see a big jump in other income so just trying to understand what is driving that jump is it more because of higher cash balances and therefore if you could also help us on the debtor and the receivable position itself on the balance sheet that is all from my side?
Dinesh Batra
You are very right we have higher cash balances so the interest income has gone up and now as interest rates are also firming up so we are getting good returns, also in my opening remark I told this Q1 we have received 78 Crores of special dividend from our associate company GEBE so these two are the reasons for the higher other income.
Amit Bhinde
Let me Sir ask you differently if I look at the 15% growth it implies only 6% growth for the balance 9 months of the three quarters of the year remaining so is that number suggesting some issue on the backlog some slow moving orders there? Anandi Ramalingam: No, it is not that see as I told you for the remaining projects also clear commitment we have not got as far as the semiconductors are concerned so wherever the semiconductor commitments have been received by us based on that we are giving a guidance of 15%.
Amit Bhinde
So that is what I was asking if you receive the commitment what could be the run rate could it be 20%, could it be 25%? Anandi Ramalingam: Yes it will be difficult for us to tell. See finally even if we get the commitment we need to see whether we have the capacity, we have the SDUS which we will be able to handle them , so all these issues will be discussed as and when it comes through but there is a possibility that it can go up if all these issues are resolved but we also do not want to give some commitment or something which we are not very sure of. Amit Bhinde: I was just asking what could be the civil revenue growth for the year? Dinesh Batra: As you said 17900 around but we will be able to clock some 15% will be coming from the civil segment.
Amit Bhinde
15% of revenue would be civil, so it would be a growth of 20%? BHARAT£l£Cr#ON/CS QUALITY. TECHNOLOGY. INNOVATION
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