ARVSMARTNSEQ1 FY23August 12, 2022

Arvind SmartSpaces Limited

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Management on call
Kamal Singal
Managing Director & CEO
Avinash Suresh
Chief Operating Officer
Ankit Jain
Chief Financial Officer
Prakash Makwana
Company Secretary
Vikram Rajput
Head of Investor Relations
Key numbers — 40 extracted
8%
inancial ‘23. This was our best-ever Q1 from a bookings perspective. Bookings for the quarter grew 8% year-on-year to INR 118 crore in Q1 ’23. Collection improved by 12% year-on-year at INR 133 crore,
INR 118 crore
was our best-ever Q1 from a bookings perspective. Bookings for the quarter grew 8% year-on-year to INR 118 crore in Q1 ’23. Collection improved by 12% year-on-year at INR 133 crore, reflecting our continued foc
12%
. Bookings for the quarter grew 8% year-on-year to INR 118 crore in Q1 ’23. Collection improved by 12% year-on-year at INR 133 crore, reflecting our continued focus on execution. We have taken measured
INR 133 crore
uarter grew 8% year-on-year to INR 118 crore in Q1 ’23. Collection improved by 12% year-on-year at INR 133 crore, reflecting our continued focus on execution. We have taken measured price increases across proje
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a 44-acres plotting development in Bavlu Village in the outskirts of Gandhinagar with approximate 2 million square feet of saleable area with the top line of INR 150 crore. This will be an outright purchase
INR 150 crore
skirts of Gandhinagar with approximate 2 million square feet of saleable area with the top line of INR 150 crore. This will be an outright purchase of land deal, and it should be somewhere by the end of next qua
INR 60 crore
months. Moving from operational update to the financial highlights. In Q1, we reported revenues INR 60 crore, up 124% on a year-on-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the
124%
from operational update to the financial highlights. In Q1, we reported revenues INR 60 crore, up 124% on a year-on-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the quarter g
31%
e reported revenues INR 60 crore, up 124% on a year-on-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the quarter grew 190% to INR 7.2 crore. Our balance position remains stro
INR 11 crore
ted revenues INR 60 crore, up 124% on a year-on-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the quarter grew 190% to INR 7.2 crore. Our balance position remains strong. As on June 3
190%
a year-on-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the quarter grew 190% to INR 7.2 crore. Our balance position remains strong. As on June 30, 2022, our net debt remains
INR 7.2 crore
n-year basis. EBITDA for the quarter grew by 31% to INR 11 crore, PAT for the quarter grew 190% to INR 7.2 crore. Our balance position remains strong. As on June 30, 2022, our net debt remains negative at INR 9
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Guidance — 20 items
Kamal Singal
opening
We're happy to announce that we have added a new project in our portfolio.
Kamal Singal
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This is our 14th project in Gujarat, a 44-acres plotting development in Bavlu Village in the outskirts of Gandhinagar with approximate 2 million square feet of saleable area with the top line of INR 150 crore.
Kamal Singal
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This will be an outright purchase of land deal, and it should be somewhere by the end of next quarter.
Kamal Singal
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While we are on the subject of business development, I would like to apprise everyone that we have exited the Bhugaon Project in Pune during the diligence process, due to technical feasibility challenges.
Kamal Singal
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As a group and a company, we place high importance to transparency, hence we had discussed this project earlier, and we had told about this project to everybody.
Kamal Singal
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However, due to technical reasons and approval issues, so we have decided to exit this project.
Kamal Singal
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To mitigate this, we have already taken some effective steps to fulfil the project pipeline gap created by this exit.
Kamal Singal
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The company is the project pipeline across Bengaluru, rigorously working on extending Ahmedabad, and Pune, of course, including MMR in the future months.
Kamal Singal
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And this triples our capital investment abilities in short-term to medium-term, and in turn, create significant value for the shareholders.
Kamal Singal
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The fund will be utilized to acquire new projects for residential development in the cities of Ahmedabad, Q1 FY23 Earnings Conference Call August 12, 2022 Bangalore, Pune and MMR.
Risks & concerns — 3 flagged
While we remain watchful of the global risk, including the economic slowdown, which is happening in the United States, Europe, etc.
Kamal Singal
and also the geopolitical issues arising from the Russian-Ukraine standoff, the impact of global economic headwinds on the Indian economy is yet to play out.
Kamal Singal
The platform is designed to generate a significant upside to ASL linked to project performance, and of course, this will add to our project pipeline in a very significant manner, and at the same time, we should be able to manage the risk profile of the balance sheet in a very efficient and effective way.
Kamal Singal
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Q&A — 2 exchanges
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So I think we just an answered this question in the previous response. The idea is that we launch Devanahalli first, and that should happen more like end of this quarter or very, very early next quarter. And subsequent to that, Sarjapur is behind Devanahalli in terms of launch maybe 1.5 months, maximum 2 months. So within end of this quarter, or early quarter one project, and then by the middle of next quarter maybe Sarjapur. Rishikesh Oza: Okay. And once it is launched, would it be, you know, fair to say that we would see a very good bookings, maybe above our normal run-rate, which used to be
Kamal Singal
So naturally when these big launches happen, and the project sizes are very decent, obviously we expect this INR 150 crore etc that number to be exceeded with very significant margin because this will be new launch sales. The current sale of INR 118 crore is broadly, the sustenance sale, of course, these should be over and about these kind of numbers, the new launch sales. Rishikesh Oza: Okay. And sir, if you could give any broad revenue execution and EBITDA better margin guidance for this year. Kamal Singal: We don't give guidance on the margins, etc. But I think we have shared quite a few de
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Chaitanya, thanks for your question. Great question. Aavishkaar is one of our projects, which is in that ultra-low-cost segment, the product, there is priced somewhere around INR 25 lakhs to INR 30 lakhs. So the lowest price point that you hit anywhere in our project portfolio till date. The project is a beautiful one and it caters to the segment of society which possibly needs the housing the most. While the sales velocity has not been as great as what we would've liked it to be or what we've been achieving, particularly in every other project, but the same time, despite challenges, this proj
Kamal Singal
Yes, sure. So both for Oasis and Aavishkaar, there are certain payments plan, which are linked to handover of the units. So we are expecting those collections as soon as we handover these units in the coming months. And because the BU (Building Usage Permission) was received recently, the project final finishing stages are almost near to completion. We have already started the process of handover for these units. So as soon as the handover is done, then we expect these units to be get cleared. And secondly, from a bank's funding perspective, the bank disburses the last leg only when the final
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Kamal Singal
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Moderator
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Rithvik Sheth
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Ankit Jain
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Kirthi Jain
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Aditya Mehta
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Opening remarks
Kamal Singal
Please note that a copy of disclosure is available on the Investors section of the website of Arvind SmartSpaces Limited as well as on stock exchanges. Please do note that anything said on this call, which reflects the outlook towards the future which could be construed as a forward-looking statement must be reviewed in conjunction with the risk that the company faces. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing ‘*’ then ‘0’ on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. With that, I would like to hand the floor over to Mr. Kamal Singal for his opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir. Thank you. Good evening. A very warm welcome to everyone present on this call. Thank you for joining us today to discuss the operating and financial performan
Kamal Singal
Q1 FY23 Earnings Conference Call August 12, 2022 CLU post our agreements etc. So that's the major part when it comes to overall timelines of a project launch. Now the final touches are being given to the plans, the architectural aspects of it, and subsequent to that, maybe this project should be getting launched, , after Devanahalli, given maybe a month, month and a half behind Devanahalli.
Rithvik Sheth
Sir, a few questions from my end. Firstly, on this fund with HDFC, so our economic interest will be 33%, is that understanding, right?
Kamal Singal
See, this is obviously our third engagement or our partnership with HDFC Caps. The first was under the H-CARE 1 fund, through that fund we invested in this Devanahalli project. This is essentially that platform project that we just talked about. The second engagement, because by the time we could invest more, COVID struck and the funding actually kind of took a halt, but still the fund invested at the entity level in that case and we got INR 50-odd-crore invested by the fund at the entity level itself, they picked up into the company. And this is now the third arrangement that we are talking about which is of a very, very significant size and larger size than the previous ones. So the partnership goes from X to Y, which is significantly higher. Because the terms are yet to be signed and this should happen in next few days, we shall be in a position to share more details about that once that process is completed. Today, the Board has approved the broad contours of this potential partner
Rithvik Sheth
So the thought process is, put in equity of about INR 900 crore and then leverage that to some extent and acquire projects which standalone balance sheet on the size which we could not do. So this will help us to increase the size of the projects as well, right? Kamal Singal: Absolutely. So, as you would've read through the communication that we have made, this is going to be a INR 900 crore platform. We are creating an SPV for this specific purpose, all the projects which we take where we co-invest, will be housed under that new SPV, and of course, this gives us, not only the dry powder required to take more projects, but as you very rightly said, this also gives us more strength to take up bigger, more value creating projects at a location, which until today we have been restricting ourselves to certain extent. Definitely even that aspect gets debottlenecked and we have more opportunities to find more valuable lands in that context. Rithvik Sheth: Right. And sir since Arvind SmartSpa
Kamal Singal
So, this is simultaneous; infusions will happen simultaneously. For example, suppose we acquired a project which is worth INR 100 crore. Then obviously one- third of that INR 33 crore from us and INR 67 crore from them will come simultaneously at the time of acquiring that project. So it basically is simultaneous to when that acquisition happens and both partners in their own ratio, 2:1 will invest and we have, of course in the INR 300 crore, it's something that is already there in the sense of availability, etc.
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