Entertainment Network (India) Limited
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Management on call
Prashant Panday
MD & CEO, ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK INDIA LIMITED
Sanjay Ballabh
Entertainment Network India Limited.
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Key numbers — 40 extracted
Rs.95 crore
Rs.39 crore
rs,
145%
2%
28%
63 crore
171%
67%
73%
27%
32 crore
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Guidance — 20 items
Talking about our Solutions business
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“Again, anything above 100% would be considered to be a strong growth, because even though we knew that we were recovering from a COVID impacted quarter last year, many times it is very uncertain that how strong there will be even a growth of 60% or 70%, would it be considered to be a strong growth.”
Coming to the pricing and the capacity utilization
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“So, ask me how I see this going forward, I believe that the pricing will start to recover, because the season is going to come.”
Coming to the pricing and the capacity utilization
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“However, the pricing recovery will be slow and gradual.”
Coming to the pricing and the capacity utilization
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“We expect this expense to continue in the coming quarters at least for this financial year.”
Coming to the pricing and the capacity utilization
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“In other words what I’m saying is that even if our revenues fail to catch up with the pre-pandemic numbers in this financial year, because the costs are so down our EBITDA movement will be far more faster in hitting the pre-pandemic numbers.”
Deepan Narayan
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“So, firstly wanted to understand, so are we on track to achieve 150 crore kind of revenue run rate for Q3 for this year as compared to pre-COVID level?”
Prashant Panday
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“I will not talk specific numbers, we normally don’t give guidance, as you know for the future.”
Prashant Panday
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“But in the digital business as you know, what actually drives downloads, and usership is performance marketing that we have completely, we have not started that at all, nor do we intend to push very heavily on it.”
Prashant Panday
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“We have also said that the 67%, we see it reducing to 50%, which does not mean that Radio is going to degrow, it only means that Radio we expect will grow slower than the other products, and therefore the contribution from Radio will reduce a 50%.”
Prashant Panday
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“Now in the Solutions portfolio, we believe that the digital businesses will grow faster, what is about 10%, 11% today should become 25% in a couple of years’ time and what is again because it will grow very rapidly.”
Risks & concerns — 3 flagged
And, it has of course been a good quarter, Radio as the sector has recovered partially from the COVID impact of the last two years.
— Prashant Panday
Again, anything above 100% would be considered to be a strong growth, because even though we knew that we were recovering from a COVID impacted quarter last year, many times it is very uncertain that how strong there will be even a growth of 60% or 70%, would it be considered to be a strong growth.
— Talking about our Solutions business
We have also said that the 67%, we see it reducing to 50%, which does not mean that Radio is going to degrow, it only means that Radio we expect will grow slower than the other products, and therefore the contribution from Radio will reduce a 50%.
— Prashant Panday
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Q&A — 4 exchanges
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Opening remarks
Prashant Panday
Thank you very much Aman, and welcome to this call dear Investors and Analysts. As always, let me just begin by giving a small update on the quarter and then we will open the lines up for questions from your end. Before I give you the details, I would just like to preface it by mentioning that this has been an exceptionally good quarter for ENIL and for the Radio industry in general. I will show you three or four points in my talk now, which will explain why I’m calling it an excellent quarter for the ENIL. And, it has of course been a good quarter, Radio as the sector has recovered partially from the COVID impact of the last two years. In fact, this was the first quarter after two full years that we’ve not had any lock downs. And we can say that this is a first quarter of recovery in genuine terms. So, with that, let me just go on to share some important numbers: As you may have seen from the Investor Presentation, our overall Standalone Company revenues were Rs.95 crore compared to R
Talking about our Solutions business
We did approximately 32 crores in revenues, which represents about 108% to last year. Again, anything above 100% would be considered to be a strong growth, because even though we knew that we were recovering from a COVID impacted quarter last year, many times it is very uncertain that how strong there will be even a growth of 60% or 70%, would it be considered to be a strong growth. But something above 100% means that it has been a really strong, exceptionally strong growth that the Company has seen in this quadrant. Now, in our Solutions business, if you remember in the pre-pandemic year in FY20, we also used to sell TV Today’s three Radio stations in Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata and if I were to remove that out and remove the other operating income, if I were to do a like to like comparison, then the really good news is that the Solutions business is actually 102% compared to the pre- pandemic quarter, which means that we have actually gone ahead of the pre-pandemic number, the Solution
Coming to the pricing and the capacity utilization
There’s been a pretty solid reset in the balance between these two important variables. If you look at the results of this quarter, and compare it with the pre-pandemic quarter, the pricing is down 44% compared to the FY20 quarter, and the volume is 119% which means that the volume recovery is still happening, but the price impact has already happened. And that is the reason why we are still less than our pre-pandemic numbers. So, ask me how I see this going forward, I believe that the pricing will start to recover, because the season is going to come. Most broadcasters are running full on volumes, there is a solid amount of demand that we are seeing in the market. So, we’re getting more and more calls for Radio advertising and therefore we believe that the pricing will start to recover starting from mid-August, which is festival season, anytime we will start seeing the pricing to recover. But will it recover all the way up, I think it will not recover all the way up. I’ve said this in
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