Tata Coffee Limited
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Management on call
Chacko Thomas
MANAGING DIRECTOR AND CEO, TATA COFFEE LIMITED
K. Venkataramanan
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FINANCE AND CFO, TATA COFFEE LIMITED
Aniruddha Joshi
ICICI SECURITIES
Key numbers — 32 extracted
30%
INR 230 crore
INR 179 crore
7%
INR 30 crore
INR 662 crore
INR 532 crore
24%
INR 65 crore
41%
INR 36 crore
42%
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Guidance — 14 items
Chacko Thomas
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“On the other income line, there is a phasing in respect of dividends from Eight O'Clock coffee, but overall for the year, we don't expect any change.”
Chacko Thomas
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“The first is related to our pepper business and the second one will be related to Vietnam.”
Chacko Thomas
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“So all in all, I think the pepper production, going forward is only poised to increase, albeit the fact that there is – there is a level of maturity that will come in, in terms of numbers every year going forward.”
K. Venkataramanan
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“The total investments for the project around 60 odd million.”
K. Venkataramanan
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“After that, there has not been know any infusion for the purpose of the project itself, though there have been some infusions required for the local, for some operating expenses and all in the initial phase.”
Chacko Thomas
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“But yes, of course there will be geographies those geographies Tata Coffee Limited August 04, 2022”
K. Venkataramanan
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“So is there any differentiated strategy going forward on product, be product wise or how much is it like just reach wise or distribution wise with Tata consumer already has already penetrated.”
Lokesh Maru
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“what is your sense on coffee prices going forward six months down the line, three months down the line, so on.”
Vignesh Iyer
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“I do not expect coffee prices to now, at least for the next three months, do any major changes, primarily because whatever weather events that could have possibly happened in any of the locations the period for that has passed.”
Vignesh Iyer
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“Going forward, at least for the next three to four months, I don't see any major variants, maybe a couple of cents here and there up and down.”
Risks & concerns — 8 flagged
And this is all on the back of the inflation of the pressure that we have spoken about whether it is around freight or steel, et cetera.
— Chacko Thomas
On the plantation front, I think on the coffee plantations, the weather has been fairly conducive and I think both coffee and pepper crops hopefully in the next couple of quarters would see the impact of this good weather.
— Chacko Thomas
That's also driven by some of it driven by increase in chemicals and fertilizers as the plantations is concern and other usual sales related freight and other costs and including power and fuels.
— Chacko Thomas
Every year, we have closer to 5% to 10%, which come into maturity, which as you rightly said, I'm not putting numbers to it because it's going to be very, very difficult because, you know pepper planted in Arabica with the higher shade would have a lesser yield and robust with lesser shade will have high et cetera.
— Chacko Thomas
So number one is to just understand correlatively on the coffee rate that in an environment if you believe that there is going to be a general economic slowdown or recession minor recession if there ever has been down reading, how does coffee behave?
— Chacko Thomas
And finally, you have Arabica and Robusta, but like someone who is consuming Arabica may be difficult to shift to Robusta due to taste constraints.
— Chacko Thomas
So, I think when you take all that into account, I think you know, at least for the company wise, I don't see much of a challenge in terms of how consumption and being impacted by this slow down.
— Chacko Thomas
But what will happen in the fourth quarter in terms of the overall production in terms of the impact of any unfortunate weather event while harvest starts in Brazil is obviously something that we may, we need to wait and see, but at the moment I do not see coffee prices doing too much different from what and where they are at the moment.
— Chacko Thomas
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Opening remarks
Chacko Thomas
Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Q1 FY2023 earnings conference call of Tata Coffee Limited, hosted by ICICI Securities. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing “*” then “0” on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Aniruddha Joshi. Thank you and over to you Sir! Yes. Thanks Seema. On behalf of ICICI Securities, we welcome you all to Q1 FY2023 Results Conference Call of Tata Coffee Limited. We have with us Senior Management represented by Mr. Chacko Thomas – Managing Director and CEO, and Mr. K. Venkataramanan – Executive Director Finance and CFO. Now, I hand over the call to the management for their initial comments and give us views on the quarterly performance and then we will open the
Chacko Thomas
So thank you, Mr. Sameer. On the pepper business, actually what we have done is over the last four or five years very extensively replanted and rejuvenated pepper vines, and these pepper vines as you rightly said are in the ballpark numbers of anything between to 18 to 18.5 lakhs vines as we speak. Only of this, only about 30% is in the actual stage of maturity. Every year, we have closer to 5% to 10%, which come into maturity, which as you rightly said, I'm not putting numbers to it because it's going to be very, very difficult because, you know pepper planted in Arabica with the higher shade would have a lesser yield and robust with lesser shade will have high et cetera. So I'm just giving you a ballpark number. So, when you look at what and you have to also understand that pepper also has an issue of stability, as well as there could be some fungus diseases that it could get impacted by. So every year you will have a certain number that actually gets removed. Otherwise, you know, th
Sameer Madan
Absolutely, sir, very, very helpful and pointed answers. Thank you very much for that. My second question is related to our Vietnam subsidiary. I would like to understand how much has been our total investment into Vietnam so far. And how has the revenue been doing in the last quarter and the last financial year?
K. Venkataramanan
The total investments for the project around 60 odd million. So roughly around it was INR 350 crore to INR 375 crore. After that, there has not been know any infusion for the purpose of the project itself, though there have been some infusions required for the local, for some operating expenses and all in the initial phase. So that's, what on Vietnam. On the turnover, we don't want to disclose numbers as such. We are operating at around 90% to 95% capacity. And it has been kind of, you know, it's already broken even we are making money there. So there's no issues around that. And quarter on quarter, the performance is improving. So, of course, there have been some glips because of the ocean freight increase and all that, which are yet to get normalized. But as we see, we have definitely, as we earlier also mentioned, we have a pilot plant in Vietnam, it is a state of art technology. So that way we have been able to you know generate good prices there. And we are also into some of the,
K. Venkataramanan
No, right now, there's no need for need for CAPEX. We are setting up some liquid extract capacities there, which will come into stream during later part of the year. So other than that, there's that no other immediate plans of expanding the capacity in Vietnam as of now. Tata Coffee Limited August 04, 2022
K. Venkataramanan
Yes, we continue to evaluate I think you have to watch the space for some time, but we continue to evaluate. Even our India plants are all fully saturated, we have two plants in India which are fully saturated and we are looking at, and also just to mention to you, we pack Tata Coffee Grand, which is sold and marketed and sold through Tata Consumer, which is also has picked up traction. And that's also continuing to do well in the marketplace. So all these are levers for growth as we see.
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