DCB Bank Limited
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80turns
8analyst exchanges
5executives
Management on call
Murali M. Natrajan
MANAGING DIRECTOR
Satish Gundewar
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER,
Ajit Kumar Singh
HEAD TREASURY & FIG,
Pra Veen Kutty
HEAD RETAIL BANKING, DCB
Sridhar Seshadri
CHIEF RISK OFFICER, DCB
Key numbers — 40 extracted
rs,
70%
45,000 crore
10,000 crore
51%
60%
18%
85%
88%
155 crore
30%
375 basis point
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Guidance — 20 items
Murali M. Natrajan
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“But that is nothing to worry about our core lending, core disbursals are doing quite well and we expect that to step up further, as we have grown our branches in the last quarter as well as the fourth quarter of last year.”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“NIMs, we have a five, seven basis point challenge primarily because of excess liquidity which we had to maintain in the start of the quarter as the business was taking time to pick up that dampened the NIM a bit, but our stable NIM that we expect should be in the range of 365 to 375 basis point.”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“But as we build volume, we expect the cost to average asset as well as cost income to come down.”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“We also expect the slippage especially of mortgages and commercial vehicle and SME to be at the same level or below pre-COVID levels· in about two to three quarters that is what our .”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“expectation is and we also expect our credit cost to be definitely lower than last year credit cost.”
Mona Khetan
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“So, do you expect that to normalize the here on?”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“So, till the time we have this product, we expect this, that customers are used to this product, they like this product, but we need to get them to have the discipline of that.”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“No, we will be passing on this thing we have already, 40 basis points we have already passed, 50 basis point will get passed on in August.”
Rohan Mandora
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“And sir the credit cost guidance of 50 to 60 basis point that is for FY23 or how are we?”
Murali M. Natrajan
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“On a steady state we expect credit cost to be 50 to 60 basis points.”
Risks & concerns — 10 flagged
Sridhar Seshadri - our Chief Risk Officer, we have Ajit Singh - our Treasury and FI Head, we have Praveen Kutty, who is the Head of our Retail Banking.
— Murali M. Natrajan
So, that is a pretty big challenge for small customers.
— Murali M. Natrajan
In terms of profit after tax obviously it's a very high number last year first quarter was a difficult quarter, we had to make a lot of provisions and it was the massive very difficult second wave that we had to deal with.
— Murali M. Natrajan
NIMs, we have a five, seven basis point challenge primarily because of excess liquidity which we had to maintain in the start of the quarter as the business was taking time to pick up that dampened the NIM a bit, but our stable NIM that we expect should be in the range of 365 to 375 basis point.
— Murali M. Natrajan
SME utilization is a challenge always in first quarter, because they use a lot of Joans in the fourth quarter and then in the first quarter the utilization comes down and is expected to pick up.
— Murali M. Natrajan
So, that you don't see as a risk to your mortgage and SME book the growth in those book?
— Mona Khetan
There is no risk to the portfolio because underlying is gold loan and you can see that the recovery is pretty much in fact higher than what the slippages are.
— Murali M. Natrajan
And so thirdly on the EBLR loans, do you see yourself passing on the entire rate hike to borrowers or there could be some compression in risk premium as well?
— Mona Khetan
Despite competitive pressure, we understand the segment, the segment is very large, we understand our products, we have distribution, we have capabilities, and that helps us to continue to march forward on this ,· journey.
— Murali M. Natrajan
But partly you see that the other thing, like if the inflation is like that, then your salary adjustments DCB BANK have to be in line with those kind of pressure.
— Murali M. Natrajan
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Opening remarks
Murali M. Natrajan
Thank you. Good evening, all of you. I am speaking to you from our boardroom. We have Mr. Sridhar Seshadri - our Chief Risk Officer, we have Ajit Singh - our Treasury and FI Head, we have Praveen Kutty, who is the Head of our Retail Banking. We have Satish Gundewar, who took charge from Bharat Sampat with whom you have been interacting for many years as ChiefFinancial Officer. So, in the first five, seven minutes or so, let me give you some highlight: One of the important highlight that I would like to bring to your attention is that, we continue to be very strong in our recoveries and upgrades. In fact, upgrade is much higher than recoveries and so, it just tells you about the robustness of the portfolio, the slippages are high, primarily contributed by gold loans, gold loans are contributing to the slippage also to the upgrade for the simple reason that the Reserve Bank of India rule that came in November of 2021, where every day, the previous 90 days the customer has to be servicing
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