IDBINSEQ2 FY2023October 21, 2022

IDBI Bank Limited

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Management on call
Divya Purohit
ICICI SECURITIES LIMITED
Rakesh Sharma
MANAGING DIRECTOR AND
Samuel Joseph
DEPUTY MANAGING DIRECTOR
Suresh Khatanhar
DEPUTY MANAGING
P. Sitaram
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR & CHIEF
Key numbers — 40 extracted
828 Crore
e recorded a highest every quarterly net profit in the history of the bank by showing a profit of 828 Crores, which is 46% Y-o-Y growth and 10% Q-o-Q growth. The other parameters also like operating profit
46%
every quarterly net profit in the history of the bank by showing a profit of 828 Crores, which is 46% Y-o-Y growth and 10% Q-o-Q growth. The other parameters also like operating profit, net interest
10%
fit in the history of the bank by showing a profit of 828 Crores, which is 46% Y-o-Y growth and 10% Q-o-Q growth. The other parameters also like operating profit, net interest income and net intere
56.19%
interest margin have shown substantial improvement. CASA ratio, we have been able to maintain at 56.19% and there has been overall growth of 54 basis points Q-o-Q. Similarly ROI which we had indicated
54 basis point
ovement. CASA ratio, we have been able to maintain at 56.19% and there has been overall growth of 54 basis points Q-o-Q. Similarly ROI which we had indicated that it will above 1%. The ROS for the quarter was 1
1%
overall growth of 54 basis points Q-o-Q. Similarly ROI which we had indicated that it will above 1%. The ROS for the quarter was 1.09% growth of 30 basis points Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front
1.09%
ts Q-o-Q. Similarly ROI which we had indicated that it will above 1%. The ROS for the quarter was 1.09% growth of 30 basis points Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front, net NPA is 1.15%, reduction of
30 basis point
y ROI which we had indicated that it will above 1%. The ROS for the quarter was 1.09% growth of 30 basis points Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front, net NPA is 1.15%, reduction of 56 basis points Y-o-Y and 1
1.15%
the quarter was 1.09% growth of 30 basis points Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front, net NPA is 1.15%, reduction of 56 basis points Y-o-Y and 10 basis points Q-o-Q. We have the highest PCR of 97.86%
56 basis point
growth of 30 basis points Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front, net NPA is 1.15%, reduction of 56 basis points Y-o-Y and 10 basis points Q-o-Q. We have the highest PCR of 97.86% in the industry. As we have
10 basis point
ts Y-o-Y and on the asset quality front, net NPA is 1.15%, reduction of 56 basis points Y-o-Y and 10 basis points Q-o-Q. We have the highest PCR of 97.86% in the industry. As we have been doing in the past th
97.86%
s 1.15%, reduction of 56 basis points Y-o-Y and 10 basis points Q-o-Q. We have the highest PCR of 97.86% in the industry. As we have been doing in the past this quarter also we have made some proactiv
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Guidance — 20 items
Rakesh Sharma
opening
I would also like to take a moment to wish everyone a great Diwali, which we will be celebrating soon.
P. Sitaram
opening
Overall, we can expect that the retail to corporate will remain within a range of plus or minus 62 to 68 for retail and the balance coming from corporate.
P. Sitaram
opening
We would see some amount of increase in the cost of deposits, but we expect that we will also see a corresponding improvement in the advances side so that we will be able to maintain our NIM at the healthy levels that we have currently.
P. Sitaram
opening
In the previous few interactions we had indicated that there is some scope to increase the composition of bulk deposits because we are at quite a low place here, so we will look wherever we find it competitive we will be raising bulk despoils and we can see that 5.5% even going up to say 8% or 10% or slightly beyond that also.
P. Sitaram
opening
Large corporate also we will be looking at, but that will be on with a lesser emphasis.
P. Sitaram
opening
We have not yet set up any DBU to anticipate a person but we do have plans eventually to do that.
Rakesh Sharma
opening
Now the guidance part, of course, we had at the beginning of the year, we had given certain numbers.
Rakesh Sharma
opening
As regards the business growth, advances as against 10% to 12% target, we have grown by 17% in net advances, but the ROA is also above 1%, and the slippage ratio is well within control.
Rakesh Sharma
opening
As far as gross NPA is concerned, we had indicated that we will be below 15% by March 31, 2023.
Rakesh Sharma
opening
So with that, we expect that some assets will be transferred to NARCL by 31st March, we will be much below the 15% because the number, which we had indicated earlier.
Risks & concerns — 6 flagged
Yield and advances have improved mainly because of again the impact of the changes in RLLR that we are doing and also the lag effect coming from MCLR revision.
P. Sitaram
Current deposits has grown by 7%, but this is slightly volatile.
P. Sitaram
The contingency provision which is something which we have done anticipating that some stress may emerge out of this portfolio, that we have taken it a little higher this time not because of there is an increase in SMA one or two, but we want to see the year play out fully.
P. Sitaram
The last slide on the capital adequacy, again, I mean I just mentioned that the increase in RWA, which I said earlier, has come due to increase in credit risk weight, slight increase in market and overall capital adequacy, all our figures are comfortable.
P. Sitaram
So for the last revaluation that we have done once in three years we keep doing, and so for the impact of the current valuation is already reflected in the balance sheet.
P. Sitaram
So there is no concern as far as our bank is concerned.
P. Sitaram
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Q&A — 5 exchanges
Q
Yes we can hear you. Sanjeev Kumar Damani: I have some questions for my learning and some for explanation. My first question is gross and net advance what is the problem.
P. Sitaram
Gross advances, advances deducted are the provisions that we have made for nonperforming assets that is net advances. Sanjeev Kumar Damani: Gross advance is bigger and net advances are lower, am I right sir. Yes, gross advances minus provision for nonperforming advances is net advances. Sanjeev Kumar Damani: When I was seeing in the slide, the gross advances figure was bigger. Yes, gross advances minus provision for NPA is equal to net advances, so gross advances will be higher. Sanjeev Kumar Damani: Second my question is regarding investment in the shares of National Stock Exchange. Are we st
Q
Sir, from the publicly disclosed document of EOI, so they are saying that 22500 Crores is the minimum net worth required. So I am saying I do not want any data that is private, but they have publicly said that in the document, divestment document. So can you just spend some time on like explaining this 22500 Crores net worth at NOFHC level, that is non- operative financial holding company. At that level, this networth could be contributed by consortium or a single player? And also, is there a leeway to contribute that by debt. So for example, 22500 Crores is required to be the net worth, and w
Rakesh Sharma
Thank you very much for asking. But please forgive me for saying this, that one, in that EOI itself they have clarified that if any questions, written questions, you require any queries are there on the offer document, so by 28th October, you can raise the queries to, one, Mr. Hitesh Sachdeva in KPMG. So I will request you to please direct these questions because this entire process is being held by the transaction advisory. Prefect Sir. I will come back in the queue after sometime.
Q
On your results you have mentioned 608 Crores has tax, So Sir, why the tax is so higher this time?
Rakesh Sharma
There are two reasons. One is the deferred tax that we have provided earlier, above provision some provisions the income tax has actually allowed. So what has been allowed, the corresponding deferred tax we had to write off so that is one component. The second is due to business loss and whatever income we cannot do any further carry forward loss so there is a tax effect on that and we have made a provision and rest is the normal course of provision. So in the coming quarters we will be paying higher tax. As we had said, the adjustment we made on the deferred tax, that will not repeat again, s
Q
Sir, could you spend some time on explaining where the credit demand is coming up? Also, will this credit demand increase or decrease going forward for 2, 3 quarters? That is first question. Also second question is that, do you think that short-term rates will even spike from here? Because I think after a lot of time, banking liquidity that is left has become negative in deficit. So can short-term rates spike even higher from here? And in that case, will it be more prudent to improved deposit rates before everybody else so that you can get incremental volume of deposits?
P. Sitaram
Yes. Credit growth is driven by different factors in the different segments. First, on the retail side, though there was a lot of fear that credit growth will be very tempered because of the increase in interest rates, I think we are all being proven wrong that despite increase in interest rates, a lot of pent-up demand in consumer financing, home loan financing is showing up, and there is no letup in the demand for retail credit growth as well. Now coming to corporates, again, the drivers investment cycle seems to be picking up. But even before that, those projects are still in the drawing bo
Q
Thank you, Madam. Let me conclude by stating that as we move forward, there will be a lot of pleasant surprises. Overall, IDBI Bank is posting good performance every quarter, and we are committed to enhance it further, sometimes bettering our projected number on select parameter as we did in the previous quarter. I again express my gratitude to all of you for your presence here and wish you a very happy Deepawali. Thank you very much.
Management
Speaking time
Rakesh Sharma
15
P. Sitaram
11
Nitin Bhalla
9
Moderator
7
Pranav
4
Divya Purohit
1
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Opening remarks
Divya Purohit
Thank you Seema. Welcome everyone to IDBI Bank results call. Today from the management, we have with us Mr. Rakesh Sharma, Managing Director and CEO, Mr. J Samuel Joseph, Deputy Managing Director, Mr. Suresh Khatanhar, Deputy Managing Director and Mr. P. Sitaram, Executive Director and CFO. Thank you so much for the opportunity Sir and over to you Mr. Sharma.
Rakesh Sharma
Thank you Madam. Good evening ladies and gentlemen. It is a great pleasure to welcome all of you to this analyst meet for our second quarter financial year 2023 result announcement. Thank you so much for attending this conference. I would also like to take a moment to wish everyone a great Diwali, which we will be celebrating soon. Let there be an abundance of light in each one of our lives both professionally and personally. The Indian economy today is witnessing a significant growth across all sectors despite the inflationary hurdles and global headwinds. We are now the fifth major economy in the world and are performing better than many other major global economy. As you may leave pandemic behind us, the banking system along with our entire economy is looking forward to a sustained growth rate. IDBI bank continues to move on its growth trajectory with yet another strong quarterly performance. While our CFO will present the highlights of our quarterly results to you, let me brief you
P. Sitaram
Good afternoon. Happy Diwali to all of you and thank you for joining this conversation. The bank has reported a PAT of 828 Crores which is the highest in its quarterly amount recorded in its history. The PBT is at 1437 Crores, operation profit of 2208 Crores. NII of 2738 and the NIM has come at 4.37. Overall, the ROA for the quarter is 1.09 on annualized basis and if you take the half yearly, it is about 1.03%. The ROE is above 15.2%. Cost to income continues to be well under control 42.29 and capital is comfortable at tier one of 17 and total CRAR of about 19.5 without taking the half yearly profit into account. Total RWA has gone up about 4000 Crores, 1,57840 Crores. It is mainly on the back of growth in advance. Cost of deposit stands at 3.44 and cost of funds at 3.72 more or less in line with Q2 and a marginal increase year-on-year. CASA is slightly higher at 56%. The deposits have grown to 2,30,000 Crores. Net NPA stands at 1.15. GNPA has come down due to recovery as well as techn
Rakesh Sharma
Now the guidance part, of course, we had at the beginning of the year, we had given certain numbers. So as you will see from the presentation which our CFO has made, we have over performed on almost all the parameters. As regards the business growth, advances as against 10% to 12% target, we have grown by 17% in net advances, but the ROA is also above 1%, and the slippage ratio is well within control. Against our estimate of 2.5%, it is 1.31%, and the credit cost also is lower than that. ROA and ROE also we have been able to improve, and the NPA level we had indicated that net NPA at 1.25%. So we have already reached 1.15%. As far as gross NPA is concerned, we had indicated that we will be below 15% by March 31, 2023. Now we have reached almost 16%. So that way with the transfer of some assets to NARCL, which are identified for transfer, and now NARCL has already started giving some offers. So with that, we expect that some assets will be transferred to NARCL by 31st March, we will be
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