CIEINDIANSEOctober 18, 2022

CIE Automotive India Limited

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Management on call
Basudeb Banerjee
ICICI SECURITIES
Key numbers — 40 extracted
63.44%
ter, CIE has bought out some of M&M stake in MCIE. And consequently, CIE's stake has gone up from 63.44% to 65.71% while that of M&M has come down to 9.25% as against 11.43% earlier. This move, again, re
65.71%
as bought out some of M&M stake in MCIE. And consequently, CIE's stake has gone up from 63.44% to 65.71% while that of M&M has come down to 9.25% as against 11.43% earlier. This move, again, reiterates C
9.25%
And consequently, CIE's stake has gone up from 63.44% to 65.71% while that of M&M has come down to 9.25% as against 11.43% earlier. This move, again, reiterates CIE management's strong belief in the gro
11.43%
CIE's stake has gone up from 63.44% to 65.71% while that of M&M has come down to 9.25% as against 11.43% earlier. This move, again, reiterates CIE management's strong belief in the growth opportunities a
INR14,294 million
ults for MCIE, which is on Page 7 of our investor presentation. Q3 C 2022 sales for India were at INR14,294 million, which represents a 34% growth compared to Q3 C'21 and a 12% growth sequentially versus Q2 C'22.Li
34%
our investor presentation. Q3 C 2022 sales for India were at INR14,294 million, which represents a 34% growth compared to Q3 C'21 and a 12% growth sequentially versus Q2 C'22.Like the last few quarter
12%
ales for India were at INR14,294 million, which represents a 34% growth compared to Q3 C'21 and a 12% growth sequentially versus Q2 C'22.Like the last few quarters, the revenue growth rates are higher
rs,
% growth compared to Q3 C'21 and a 12% growth sequentially versus Q2 C'22.Like the last few quarters, the revenue growth rates are higher than the underlying market growth rates. MCIE India EBITDA marg
15%
h rates are higher than the underlying market growth rates. MCIE India EBITDA margin in Q3 C'22 is 15% despite the adverse impact of commodity prices, RM prices, as also an increase in the cost of ene
11.4%
increase in the cost of energy in Maharashtra, where many of our plants are located. EBIT was at 11.4%, which is better than both year-on-year 10.8% and sequentially 11.1%. In India, the month of Septe
10.8%
where many of our plants are located. EBIT was at 11.4%, which is better than both year-on-year 10.8% and sequentially 11.1%. In India, the month of September has seen good sales across all segments,
11.1%
ts are located. EBIT was at 11.4%, which is better than both year-on-year 10.8% and sequentially 11.1%. In India, the month of September has seen good sales across all segments, especially 4-wheelers,
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Guidance — 20 items
Vikas Sinha
opening
As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen only mode.
Vikas Sinha
opening
And there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
Vikas Sinha
opening
In India, the month of September has seen good sales across all segments, especially 4-wheelers, and we largely expect this trend to continue.
Vikas Sinha
opening
We are confident that just like the energy impact in Q1 C'22, we will be partially able to get some of these increases through our customers in the coming quarters.
Jinesh Gandhi
qa
Firstly, can you talk about the impact of energy prices in Europe in this quarter and what we expect in the coming quarter?
Ander Alvarez
qa
So you saw a certain impact on the Q3 margins, and we expect to recuperate, at least partially, in the next quarters.
Ander Alvarez
qa
My view is that probably there will be a certain slowdown on the economy until the final solution is reached.
Ander Alvarez
qa
And on the other side of the outlook for light vehicle production, which we have given from IHS that talks of decline in CY'22 as well as a sub-3% CAGR over the next 3, 4 years.
Ander Alvarez
qa
What is your sense with respect to what kind of a group can we expect in Europe, going forward?
Ander Alvarez
qa
So how do you see growth, going forward?
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
MCIE India EBITDA margin in Q3 C'22 is 15% despite the adverse impact of commodity prices, RM prices, as also an increase in the cost of energy in Maharashtra, where many of our plants are located.
Vikas Sinha
However, historically, due to the cyclicality in the tractor demand, we could see a slight slowdown after the festive period in this segment.
Vikas Sinha
And also, we would like to mention that in this quarter, there was a negative exchange rate translation impact of about 11%.
Vikas Sinha
On the demand side, even though the customer schedules have not decreased, it is very uncertain as to what impact energy prices will have in Q4 C'22 due to the Ukraine war situation.
Vikas Sinha
Firstly, can you talk about the impact of energy prices in Europe in this quarter and what we expect in the coming quarter?
Jinesh Gandhi
But that is the impact of the energy prices in Europe in all the industry.
Ander Alvarez
And do you also foresee a risk on continuity of operations because of availability of power or energy in fourth quarter?
Ander Alvarez
Or that is definitely not a concern cost is the only concern?
Ander Alvarez
In this moment, we don't see that risk or let's say that we are producing normally, we have availability of electricity and gas in all our operations in this moment.
Ander Alvarez
My view is that probably there will be a certain slowdown on the economy until the final solution is reached.
Ander Alvarez
But, okay, the risk and the uncertainty is there.
Ander Alvarez
And on the other side of the outlook for light vehicle production, which we have given from IHS that talks of decline in CY'22 as well as a sub-3% CAGR over the next 3, 4 years.
Ander Alvarez
So there is a risk of that could happen.
Ander Alvarez
Probably it's more cyclical, and we expect certain decline in the next quarters, we could foresee that.
Nikhil Kale
So the evolution of this business is more and more difficult, okay.
Nikhil Kale
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Q&A — 2 exchanges
Q
Firstly, can you talk about the impact of energy prices in Europe in this quarter and what we expect in the coming quarter?
Vikas SInha
Okay. Ander? Good afternoon, everybody. This is Ander Arenaza speaking. Okay. The energy prices during the third quarter this year were the highest energy prices we have ever seen, okay, even higher than the worst moment when the war in Ukraine started in end of February, beginning of March, okay. At that time, the energy, electricity price, for example, went up to something like EUR300 per megawatt in March 2022. And in July, August, we have been hitting EUR400 per megawatt, okay. That has been the huge peak that we have been suffering in all the European countries. Different in each country,
Q
Actually, my question is related to war only. I mean, in the aftermath of the Ukraine war in China, how will your business strategy change prior to war and post?
Vikas Sinha
How has the Ukraine war changed our business strategy? Okay. In fact, we have not changed strongly our strategy because CIE's strategy has always been local-to-local supply, okay. We prefer to produce in America what we sell in America, produce in Europe what we sell in Europe and produce in Asia what we sell in Asia, okay. That's the strategy. So we keep this strategy. Now, also because of the environmental requirements and more stringent targets that we have, we are also trying to avoid unnecessary logistic cost and emissions. So in that sense, this local-to-local strategy is reinforced. Con
Speaking time
Ander Alvarez
10
Vikas Sinha
9
K. Jayaprakash
7
Siddhant Dand
6
Nikhil Kale
4
Ankur
4
Moderator
3
Swapnil Soudagar
3
Jinesh Gandhi
1
Vikas SInha
1
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Opening remarks
Vikas Sinha
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Mahindra CIE Limited Q3 CY 2022 Post Results Conference Call, hosted by ICICI Securities. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen only mode. And there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call please signal an operator by pressing ‘*’ then ‘0’ on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Basudeb Banerjee from ICICI Securities. Thank you, and over to you, sir. Thanks to Mahindra CIE management for giving us the opportunity to host the call. We have with us Mr. Ander Alvarez, CEO of Mahindra CIE; Mr. K. Jayaprakash, CFO; Mr. Vikas Sinha, Senior Vice President, Strategy; Mr. Oroitz Lafuente, Business Controller; and Swapnil Soudagar, DGM Strategy. So over to you, Vikas, for your initial comments, and we'll take the call ahead accordingly. Yes. Thanks, Basudeb. Go
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