Orient Cement Limited
10,137words
96turns
7analyst exchanges
2executives
Management on call
Deepak Khetrapal
MANAGING DIRECTOR AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ORIENT CEMENT LIMITED
Harsh Mittal
ICICI SECURITIES
Key numbers — 40 extracted
15%
Rs. 45
Rs. 23
70%
1%
14%
12.36 lakh
1.24 million
3%
1.4%
10%
26.37 lakh
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Guidance — 20 items
Harsh Mittal
opening
“Deepak Khetrapal for his opening remarks, which will be followed by an interactive Q&A session.”
Deepak Khetrapal
opening
“And also, we take pride in the fact this migration, which typically is considered 6 to 9 months project, we did an insanely short-time of just 3.5 months, not about 3.5 months is what it took us from starting the work to going live.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“We also have done it to keep our progress on the digitalization and to become more and more a company which is driven by data and data analytics and decision making which will be largely based on the data that we have with us.”
Deepak Khetrapal
opening
“So, we started with north Karnataka, which is as it is a little more difficult market, but it's closer to our Chitapur plant where we are producing the cement for now and we plan to roll it out.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“The other impact of heavy rains is that the larger project who have the infrastructure to continue construction despite rains, because they have more mechanized equipment, they have better labor camps, they have everything, they consumed a lot more of cement.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“With the waste heat recovery project at Chitapur which is under construction and which, as said earlier, we will be commissioning towards the end of the financial year.”
Deepak Khetrapal
opening
“2 crore, which obviously had to be incurred when we were doing the project.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“And also in this quarter, we quite didn't expect the rains to be as heavy as they are.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“37 crore toward project debt in this quarter, total in H1 becoming Rs.”
Deepak Khetrapal
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“74 crore So, and we today, our let's say the project debt is now down to Rs.”
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
So, we started with north Karnataka, which is as it is a little more difficult market, but it's closer to our Chitapur plant where we are producing the cement for now and we plan to roll it out.
— Deepak Khetrapal
The alternate fuels that we are using more and more during monsoon is very difficult to use them when they come wet.
— Deepak Khetrapal
And when they come in the wet form to you, it becomes very difficult to use them.
— Deepak Khetrapal
But if we remember that last year in Q2, we had sold about 24,000 tons, 25,000 ton of clinker, and this year, clinker sale was out of question because the coal supplies were so uncertain, we would never use our coal and make another cement manufacturer have our clinker at all.
— Deepak Khetrapal
The other impact of heavy rains is that the larger project who have the infrastructure to continue construction despite rains, because they have more mechanized equipment, they have better labor camps, they have everything, they consumed a lot more of cement.
— Deepak Khetrapal
Telangana, even today makes the renewable power a lot more difficult to use, because of the State rules as you know.
— Deepak Khetrapal
But the power and fuel cost per ton is not looking as high simply because we managed to increase renewable power, we managed to increase to the extent possible, I mean we've been handicapped a little bit by availability challenge on the alternate fuels, but even then we have used alternate fuels.
— Deepak Khetrapal
4 crore is impact of reversal of provisions of variable pay last year in Q2.
— Deepak Khetrapal
And I’m also hoping that as this softens and I am also hearing in the last 1 week or so, the South African coal again due to lack of interest from European Union, lack of interest even let’s say from China and all, is beginning to soften.
— Deepak Khetrapal
Because land acquisition has become a very difficult process for any Greenfield expansion.
— Abhishek Maheshwari
It is difficult but still I’m sure, we are getting our new Greenfield capacity coming up.
— Deepak Khetrapal
The challenge that we’re having is do I start matching the low prices that they are offering in the market to defend my volumes or do I defend my brand for the longer term saying, I’m not going to match their prices, I’m going to stick to my brand positioning, it’s a tossup.
— Deepak Khetrapal
So, till we actually start seeing some strength, it’s very difficult to have a guess.
— Deepak Khetrapal
So, if you say the realty sector goes for some kind of slowdown because of the interest rate scenario because already this is quite apparent.
— Surya Naik
You have to answer that question and in previous few quarters, this quarter that is not visible, but previous quarter we’ve had some companies which sold a lot more volume and they declared a lot more, let’s say, decline in EBITDA and decline in profitability.
— Deepak Khetrapal
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Opening remarks
Harsh Mittal
Thank you, Melissa. Good afternoon and a warm welcome to everyone. On behalf of ICICI Securities, we welcome you to the second quarter and first half of FY23 Earnings Call of Orient Cement Limited. On the call, we have with us Mr. Deepak Khetrapal – MD and CEO of the company. At this point of time, I will hand over the floor to Mr. Deepak Khetrapal for his opening remarks, which will be followed by an interactive Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Deepak Khetrapal
Very good afternoon to everyone. And I join Harsh Mittal in extending a very warm welcome to all of you. Thank you for sparing the time, thank you for investing your time with us. And for those of you who are investing with us, even financially, thank you for investing in us and believing in us. Thank you so much. Where do I start this call, in the sense that we all know, the kind of quarter we've had. But even then, let me at least start with some of the positive things that have happened during the Q2. And I'll obviously come to the hard numbers in a minute, I won't take too long over it. But a few good things that I certainly want to point out to people who are interested in us. One, for those of you who’ve seen that in social media and all, Deloitte does run a global program called Best Managed Companies all over the world, and in India, this was the second edition. And they have a very robust process through which the Best Managed Companies are actually selected. And they take us
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