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“Solara Active Pharma Sciences Limited Q2 & H1 FY23 Conference Call”
November 09, 2022
MANAGEMENT: MR. JITESH DEVENDRA – MANAGING DIRECTOR,
SOLARA ACTIVE PHARMA SCIENCES LIMITED MR. S HARIHARAN – EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, SOLARA ACTIVE PHARMA SCIENCES LIMITED MR. ABHISHEK SINGHAL – INVESTOR RELATIONS, SOLARA ACTIVE PHARMA SCIENCES LIMITED
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Moderator:
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q2 FY2023 and H1 FY23 Solara Active
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Pharma Sciences Limited Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in listen-
only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation
concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call please signal an operator by
pressing star then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being
recorded.
I now hand the conference over to Abhishek. Thank you and over to you.
Abhishek Singhal:
A very good afternoon to all of you and thank you for joining us today for Solara Active Pharma
Sciences Earnings Conference Call for the second quarter and half year ended Financial Year
2023. Today we have with us Jitesh – Solara MD and Hari - ED and CFO to share the highlights
of the business and financials for the quarter.
I hope you have gone through our results released and quarterly investor presentation which
have been uploaded on our website. The transcript of this call will be available in a week’s time
on the company’s website.
Please note that today’s discussion may be forward looking in nature and must be viewed in
relation to the risk pertaining to our business. After the end of this call, in case if you have any
further questions, please feel free to reach out to the investor relation team.
I now hand over the call to the management to make the opening remarks. Jitesh over to you.
Jitesh Devendra:
Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining the call today.
I like to start off with sharing good news that we have received CEP approval for manufacture
of ibuprofen from our Vizag site which is in addition to our Puducherry site. We also received
approval for ibuprofen DMF from China, for our Puducherry site, making a total of two products
approved by Chinese authorities. This is our first step towards Vizag being qualified for
regulated markets. We have also amended our US DMF to include Vizag as an additional site
for ibuprofen with one of our major customers filing PAS application. We expect a prior
approval inspection (PAI) by US FDA in the next financial year. We have initiated validation of
new products from Vizag site, which shall be filed in second half of this financial year.
Coming to the Q2 performance:
We have a steady performance during the quarter with Q2 revenues at Rs.342 crores, which is
greater than 85% of our historical run rate. I would like to reiterate that our course correction
strategy is in action now. We continue to focus and build on the actions that we have initiated in
this fiscal year to get back to growth, both in terms of revenue and margins improving, our cash
flows and strengthening our balance sheet.
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The first one reviving the base business growth and profits by bringing back the momentum,
we had on customer centricity by better networking and continuing our focus on operating cost
reduction, continuous improvement program and efficient inventory management.
With improved base business margins in Q2 FY2023 and along with our actions taken in H1,
the stage is set for a stronger bounce back in second half of this financial year.
The second one rekindling the R&D focus by adding 15 plus new programs for the year and
we are on track to file six new products in this financial year and adding more high-volume
products under the cost improvement basket. We have filed eight new market extensions for nine
of our existing APIs for Q2 taking the total to nine new market extensions for 10 of our existing
APIs for H1.
The third one Enhanced capacity usage at Vizag by supplying validation quantities to our
customers. Although our greater focus will be on regulated markets, we are tapping opportunities
in markets with no regulatory binding, and we are planning certain product supplies from Vizag
to markets where there is no less regulatory binding from Q3 of this financial year and this will
help to reduce the under recoveries at Vizag. Our Vizag strategy is playing to plan as stated at
the opening of my speech as one of our customers has already filed the PAS for the US FDA,
and we have received the CEP approval for manufacture of ibuprofen. We have invested on
lyophilization capability at our Vizag site which is a unique capability added for one of our
ongoing product validations.
Coming to the update on the Cuddalore site:
In the last quarter, I mentioned, we have 11 pending approvals from our Cuddalore site. Our
customer has filed, one of our polymer products taking the total to 12 pending approvals from
US FDA. Our focus market, Latin America, specifically, Brazil and China have also seen
traction. We secured a major order for one of our key products from Brazil, for which the
delivery will take place in Q3. With this our total number of filings in Brazil is two, and the
target is to file, three to four products in this financial year.
On CRAMS front:
We have had good inroads in the US market with onboarding of our CRAMS head for North
America. We will see traction of these efforts in FY2024. Meanwhile, the RFPs we have
submitted in first half of this year, we are hoping to win some in the second half of this financial
year.
With a focus on all the actions above, we are confident that in outgoing Q4, we will return to
our historical revenue, run rate of minimum Rs.400 crores per quarter with mid-teens EBITDA
margin and turning PAT positive.
I, now hand over to Hari to take us to the financials for Q2 FY2023. Thank you.
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S. Hariharan:
We are pleased to announce our Q2 FY2023 Results. Key highlights for the quarter are the
following.:
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Our revenue is Rs.342 crores which is about 85% of our historical quarterly ran rate, and as
Jitesh indicated in Q3 and Q4 will be at a historical run rate. Our gross margin stands at 44.2%
improved by 270 basis points over Q1 and operating EBITDA at 52.6 Crores with 15% margins.
We recognize the fact that we are working on the various actions to improve the EBITDA and
mainly, due to the under recovery of Vizag and now with the CEP approval received and other
new product validations and the generic product being made for the less regulated market, and
we will be out from the under recovery of Vizag in quarter 4 of this current financial year, so
that we become normalized.
As indicated by Jitesh, we have identified key focus areas and we are working on these areas
which will result in an improved second half of this financial year. Our immediate priority is to
offset the under recovery in Vizag and achieve a break-even profitable growth in near term. And
during the current quarter, we have initiated action particularly regulatory inspection which was
delayed due to the COVID for a long time. In H1, we have reduced the debt by Rs.12 crores and
we are working to achieve the comfortable net debt EBITDA ratio for the end of this financial
year.
Our net current assets were reduced by Rs.63.8 crores mainly due to the inventory reduction and
the government refund of GST funds. Our focus is on improving our cash flows by prudent
application of capital with a clear focus on the actions to improve profitability. We remain
confident above our growth prospects of Solara. Thank you so much.
Moderator:
We will now begin the question-and-answer session. We have our first question from the line of
Rohan John from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Rohan John:
I have a few questions. So, first of all sequential improvement which we have seen in the
regulated and other markets. I see it is quite low for this quarter. So, what will drive as growth
going forward in the coming quarters?
Jitesh Devendra:
Yes, so the growth, what we are seeing in the coming Q3 and Q4 will be due to the demands for
our base business that is coming back and what we have seen in the H1 is not what we are used
to as from a historical point of view. So. in the second half we are definitely seeing the demand
for our key products coming back that is one of the key drivers for the revenue growth.
Rohan John:
Yes, so now the second question I had was especially on the gross margins, so if I see currently
the gross margin for the half year is around 42% and you had initially guided to around 50% for
the year. So, do you still maintain this guidance? Or are you going to revise it?
Jitesh Devendra:
Yes, so we did mention that, you know, with the actions, what we have taken in H1 and the
demands coming back for our key products. The second half of this financial year, especially
the outgoing Q4 we will be at closer to the 50% gross margin.
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Rohan Johan:
Yes, and then another question was related to ibuprofen approval, which you have got in China.
So, when will we start shipping and what is the potential revenue from this opportunity?
Jitesh Devendra:
We will not give specific revenue for a product, but the commercial supplies will only happen
in 2024 because customers have to take the validation batches. They have to do their own,
regulatory submissions.
Rohan John:
Okay and also ibuprofen that was set to be manufactured in Vizag, right? So, could you give me
some timelines as to when will you reach EBIT, when the plant will be EBITDA neutral. I think
you have told near term, could you give some timelines.
Jitesh Devendra:
Yes, so we are aiming for Vizag under recoveries to be met from the outgoing Q4.
Rohan Johan:
And the last question which I had was related with the CRAMS revenue. So, if I see currently,
it stands at around 5%, if I am not wrong. So, do you see that getting giving more contribution
in the revenues? Or do you see it at the current levels only?
Jitesh Devendra:
No, we want CRAMS to be definitely a bigger piece than being a single digit, with the head of
CRAMS for North America come into the picture. We have seen a lot of traction in the last one
month. So, we are quite upbeat about the CRAMS business. But yes, we want to grow this
business and not just maintain it at 5%.
Moderator:
We have our next question from the line of Palak Deka an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Palak Deka:
Yes, so just one question on the revenue side sir when do we expect to head back to quarterly
run rate Rs.400 crores?
Jitesh Devendra:
So, while we are confident that from Q4 but internally with the green shoots we are seeing in
some of our base business maybe it could even advance from Q4 to Q3 itself.
Moderator:
Thank you. We have our next question from the line of Sumit Gupta from Motilal Oswal
Financial Services. Please go ahead.
Sumit Gupta:
Just need to have clarification if there is any schedule of the US FDA inspection at Vizag facility.
So, if you can give any color on the market size of the product which has triggered the Vizag
inspection.
Jitesh Devendra:
So, the product which has triggered the Vizag inspection is ibuprofen but there are couple of
other products which we are doing validations which will also help in triggering. So, with this
trigger, we are expecting the US FDA inspection for our Vizag site in the next financial year,
probably sometime in the second half of next financial year.
Sumit Gupta:
And another question is just to know if any shortage of the ibuprofen that has triggered the
inspection if there is any shortage of it.
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Jitesh Devendra:
We do not see any shortage of ibuprofen but yes, our growth in ibuprofen is coming by, because
we have added some new customers and new geographies and that will also help in terms of
Vizag site where we are also talking to our customers to qualify Vizag also so we could have
both the sites Puducherry and Vizag to meet the demand growth for ibuprofen.
Sumit Gupta:
Okay and sir how big can the opportunity be from the approval of ibuprofen API by CDE China
and over what period of time, like you said for FY2024 and is it right?
Jitesh Devendra:
I think we are still working on that, give us some time. We will get back on the size of the
opportunities, definitely China is a large market for ibuprofen. So, we are working out with our
customers now because it took us nearly three years to get this approval. So, it is a tough
regulated market. So now with this approval in place we are working with our customers, in
terms of what is the business potential.
Sumit Gupta:
And sir, one more question, can you explain the improvement in the gross margin given that the
share of regulated market is almost similar sequentially, is at 66%. So, is it the same base case
improvement this business?
Jitesh Devendra:
So, we had a good product mix of our current base products and that has led to an improvement
in the gross margins.
Sumit Gupta:
And sir final question is like, are you seeing normalization of inventory with respect to ibuprofen
and just to understand the pricing of products on consequential basis.
Jitesh Devendra:
Pricing is pretty stable on ibuprofen and on other key APIs also what we manufacture and the
inventory level of ibuprofen for us as I said, in the first half, also we had seen a decent demand.
I would not say a great one. This is what we are expecting in the second half and the inventory
levels are not a concern at all.
Moderator:
Thank you. We have a question from the line of Mittal Jain an individual investor. Please go
ahead.
Mittal Jain:
Hi sir, my question pertains to the Vizag facility so as you reiterated that will be breaking even
by Q4, so by when do we expect optimum utilization of Vizag facility and what is the peak asset
turn that we can expect and what are the further capex number, which you are planning to incur
for this facility. Those are my two questions.
S. Hariharan:
We do not expect major capex in Vizag facility because most of the capex we have already
incurred and because we just got CEP approval, it will take another one year for us to reach the
full-fledged operation in Vizag in terms of capacity utilization. So that by end of FY2024, we
are fully potential of the capacity which will be achieved.
Moderator:
Thank you. We have our next question from the line of Nitin Agarwal from DAM Capital.
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Nitin Agarwal:
Just two questions, one is on the debt level, which are there, we still have a fairly high level of
debt versus given our EBITDA levels. So how are we thinking about reduction in debt levels,
over the next couple of years and what are levels do we feel reaching lowering down to as you
go forward?
S. Hariharan:
If you take a look, our debt level, the term debt is Rs.346 crores and we expect that every year
we repay around Rs. 100 crores debt from our internal accruals. The term loan is especially for
Vizag and once it is fully operational and it will be subsidized. The working capital debt is at
Rs.600 crores and that is also pretty much in line with the current inventory debtor’s level. We
will be having slight reduction in the debt by end of the current financial year. But in terms of
net debt to EBITDA, we will be reaching the normalized position by FY2024.
Nitin Agarwal:
What would be the normalized position? Sir if you can repeat that?
S. Hariharan:
2.5 to 3 times.
Nitin Agarwal:
Sorry sir I think the voice was breaking when you were saying.
S. Hariharan:
Around 2.5 to 3 times.
Nitin Agarwal:
2.5 to 3 times net debt to EBITDA by the end of FY2024.
Jitesh Devendra:
Yes.
Nitin Agarwal:
And secondly, on the CRAMS business, you talked about RFPs, you are participating in RFPs
but what is the nature of typically client call or business that we are chasing these are largely
late-stage contract or these are basically the lifecycle management contracts and molecules are
in late stages of the patent life or what is the nature of the contracts typically?
Jitesh Devendra:
On the CRAMS businesses, it is a mix of both the early stage and also on the late stage then we
also have business where we are also supplying the key intermediate, because the regulations
around the intermediates also have significantly changed from US FDA. So, it is a combination
of both.
Nitin Agarwal:
But the bulk as an industry perspective, bulk of the RFP that you typically see getting floated by
companies. What is the typical nature of these RFPs? What kind of products are companies
really are putting out RFPs for?
Jitesh Devendra:
It is more on the capability, what the company has right? The product could be anything because
if these are products from the CRAMS side and you are working with the innovator companies.
They are in the discovery phase. So, if it matches our capability both from an R&D as well as
from a manufacturing point of view. Then, we will go ahead and evaluate and take it forward.
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Nitin Agarwal
Right. Jitesh, you talked about a 50% gross margin by the end of the year. How should we
achieve it? Any thoughts on what is your sustainable level of margins for our business, given
the way it is, the way you see it over the next few quarters beyond Q4.
Jitesh Devendra:
So, beyond Q4 also, we will see the same levels of the gross margins. Of course, you know, we
are working in terms of the product mix where we introduce new products and the sales of the
new product validation that will help in terms of improving, the gross margin beyond 50 percent
but for now, I think 50% is something which is quite comfortable.
Moderator:
Thank you. We have our next question from the line of Avnish Khara from VT Capital. Please
go ahead.
Avnish Khara:
I just wanted to understand what our utilization levels are at for the first half and where do you
think they will leap for the second half just for the Vizag site.
S. Hariharan:
Yes, the overall capacity is about 75% currently.
Avnish Khara:
So, it is at 75% and where do you see it going in the next half?
Jitesh Devendra:
As we see, the demands for the key products coming back and Vizag also has to go through the
full cycle of inspections from other regulatory body. Then of course this percentage will
improve.
Avnish Khara:
Okay and on the ibuprofen side, how much of the difference in the average selling price are you
seeing in North America and Europe is compared to the less regulated markets.
Jitesh Devendra:
We do not give any market specific pricing guidance.
Avnish Khara:
Okay no worries, also from your tone it seems that you are not seeing as much demand on the
ibuprofen side as we would want to. So, then what is the reason for qualifying an additional
facility at Vizag, when we could also be supplying from our existing sites to regulated markets
as well, right?
Jitesh Devendra:
No, what I said was, we are seeing growth of ibuprofen coming from new geographies and new
customers.
Avnish Khara:
Also, how much traction are you seeing on the CRAMS side with respect to a China Plus One
model, we are hearing about it for a long time. But, on the ground what is the reality according
to you?
Jitesh Devendra:
On the ground reality of course China, you have some reputed companies also who are there in
the CDMO space. Now yes, this China Plus One policy has always been there, but overall, I
think it all comes down to what efforts we make in terms of breaking through with the new
customers and with the existing customers, right? And with that kind of traction and we are
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developing a team around it on the business development side. So, with that approach, we are
quite confident CRAMS there will be a sizable portion of our business. As we look in the next
3-to-4-year horizon.
Moderator:
Thank you. Thank you. We have our next question from the line of Rohit Suresh from Samatva
Investments, please go ahead.
Rohit Suresh:
Sir, I just wanted to know, there was BASF Facility that was supposed to come up in Germany.
Has it come up or just highlight something on that?
S. Hariharan:
No idea sir.
Jitesh Devendra:
We have no validated information around that.
Rohit Suresh:
So, in Europe, there is no major manufacturer of Ibu. So how is our market share in the European
regions and how do you see it going forward?
Jitesh Devendra:
So again, I will not be able to quantify from a number perspective, but I can confidently say,
from a regulated market perspective Solara has a good market share. A sizable market share in
the regulated markets for ibuprofen.
Rohit Suresh:
Sir, one last question on the non Ibu part. So, what are your plans for the next couple of years
and in terms of your total revenues. How do you see that part moving forward?
Jitesh Devendra:
See on the non-ibuprofen business on the base business we are pretty solid with what business
we have with our existing customers and markets. What is important is that we also are doing
market extensions for these and that is why I said the market extensions for our current products
we are looking at newer geographies. So, we will see even growth coming from our non-
ibuprofen-based products. So, our focus in terms of, newer geographies which really, we did not
have in the past like Brazil or China, that will drive the traction for the non-ibuprofen APIs.
Moderator:
Thank you. We have our next question from the line of Sumit Gupta Motilal Oswal Financial
Services. Please go ahead.
Summit Gupta:
Thanks again. Just want to note the target debt rate to EBITDA by FY2023 sir.
S. Hariharan:
This financial year, it will be equal to 5 or to that range.
S. Hariharan:
Net Debt EBITDA at five times, current financial year and working for 2.5 to 3 by end of the
next financial year.
Moderator:
Thank you for the questions over to the management team.
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Jitesh Devendra:
Thank you everyone again for joining the Solara Q2 FY2023 call, and we look forward to
interacting with you for the next Q3 call. So, thank you, everyone.
Moderator:
Thank you. On behalf of Solara Active Pharma Sciences Limited that concludes this conference.
Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.
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