DBOLNSENovember 09, 2022

Dhampur Bio Organics Limited

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Management on call
Gautam Goel
MANAGING DIRECTOR
Nalin Gupta
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
Mukul Sharma
CHIEF OF STAFF
Atul Singh
HEAD OF SALES
Ashu Ra Wat
COMPANY SECRETARY
Sonika Malhotra
SR MANAGER FINANCE & ACCOUNTS
Navin Agra Wal
HEAD INSTITUTIONAL EQUITIES SKP SECURITIES LIMITED
Key numbers — 40 extracted
36 million
utlook continues to be inflationary and cautious. We are aware the Indian sugar industry produced 36 million tons of sugar and about 3 .5 million tons of sugar was diverted into ethanol production this year
5 million
d cautious. We are aware the Indian sugar industry produced 36 million tons of sugar and about 3 .5 million tons of sugar was diverted into ethanol production this year. The domestic consumption is pegged
11 million
this year. The domestic consumption is pegged at 27 .5 million tons and after a record export of 11 million tons, we would be left with an opening stock of about 6 million tons. The production scenario for
6 million
tons and after a record export of 11 million tons, we would be left with an opening stock of about 6 million tons. The production scenario for the next year is equally bullish. Production estimates for next
36.5 million
ction scenario for the next year is equally bullish. Production estimates for next year is around 36.5 million tons post diversion of about 4.5 million tons of sugar to ethanol. It is believed the government
4.5 million
y bullish. Production estimates for next year is around 36.5 million tons post diversion of about 4.5 million tons of sugar to ethanol. It is believed the government of India will permit exports under the MA
6 million
to ethanol. It is believed the government of India will permit exports under the MAEQ Scheme with 6 million tons being allocated for exports in the first phase. The industry is hopeful that further quantit
2 million
r which there is a possibility of softness in the international markets. The trade believes about 2 million tons of sugar in all forms, which is raws, low-quality white and refined sugars have already been
4 million
r Dhampur BioOr9anics Ltd. On the global sugar front, 2022-23 global surplus is expected around 4 million tons. However, some of this surplus is sitting in regions which cannot export, like Pakistan and
590 million
is sitting in regions which cannot export, like Pakistan and Russia. Brazil is estimated to crush 590 million to 600 million tons in 2022-23 versus 542 million tons this year. Sugar production is estimated a
600 million
egions which cannot export, like Pakistan and Russia. Brazil is estimated to crush 590 million to 600 million tons in 2022-23 versus 542 million tons this year. Sugar production is estimated at 38-38.5 milli
542 million
kistan and Russia. Brazil is estimated to crush 590 million to 600 million tons in 2022-23 versus 542 million tons this year. Sugar production is estimated at 38-38.5 million tons in Brazil, which is up 5 mi
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Guidance — 20 items
Gautam Goel
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After which we will be glad to answer any queries, you may have.
Gautam Goel
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The production scenario for the next year is equally bullish.
Gautam Goel
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Production estimates for next year is around 36.5 million tons post diversion of about 4.5 million tons of sugar to ethanol.
Gautam Goel
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The industry is hopeful that further quantities could be permitted sometime during early part of next year, once there is a greater assurance on the production numbers.
Gautam Goel
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The Thai production is estimated to be around 12 million tons, up 2 million tons, and this sugar in the form of raws and white would start trickling into the world markets from mid-January onwards, and will be competing with the Indian sugars.
Gautam Goel
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They expect to produce 16.5 million tons this year which should be 1.24 million tons lower than last year.
Gautam Goel
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As per the latest new reports the prices of C-Heavy ethanol prices have been increased by INR 2.75 per litre, and the new revised prices will be INR 49.41 per litre.
Gautam Goel
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We are aggressively working to increase our sale of country liquor and hope it will take care of a substantial portion of our levy obligation going forward.
Gautam Goel
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However, we don't anticipate any adverse impact on our overall cane availability.
Gautam Goel
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Owing to our continuous cane development efforts, we expect a higher cane crush as compared to the previous years.
Risks & concerns — 3 flagged
The macro global and domestic outlook continues to be inflationary and cautious.
Gautam Goel
One potential area of concern is the policy to reserve molasses for country liquor segment in Uttar Pradesh.
Gautam Goel
In this quarter, we have accounted for additional levy obligation of molasses of 2% due to change in policy for the full sugar season, which had an impact of around INR 7 crores taking into account the loss of the value addition in form of ethanol.
Nalin Gupta
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Q&A — 4 exchanges
Q
Yes. Congrats for a good set of numbers, and thanks for giving me the opportunity Sir, I have a few questions. First, in your initial comment, you mentioned that despite there is a slow delayed start in the season, you are anticipating sugar production to be higher on a year-on-year basis. So can you help us, what are your expectation in terms of production in the state of UP and for you, particularly for this reason?
Gautam Goel
Sorry, Do you want to state all your questions or should I answer this question first. I will ask my second question. I just want to understand the additional levy obligation of 2%. So if you help me understand what exactly it is and whether this is something which will continue in the quarters ahead? And the third question is after the increase in the ethanol capacity, what kind of ethanol production you are expected over the next two years to three years? So these are my three questions. Thank you very much. So on the first question regarding the estimated production in UP. So the SMA number
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Thank you for your inputs on the global sugar industry and obviously, the Indian sugar industry. So quite useful. I have a question on your country liquor. That is, generic question for UP. You are now at 20% levy. And you have now commissioned a new country liquor plant, which will make about 28 lakh cases of country liquor. If you were to make the full amount, what percentage of your levy gets covered, which basically reduces your losses? Is it all 20%? Is it only 10% is only half?
Gautam Goel
So Nimish, yes. So the country liquor policy is for 20% of C-molasses, so obviously, it will get adjusted for the corresponding quantities for B- molasses, but ethanol capacity of the plant that we have. Currently, we can, see the current capacity will probably help us a little bit, I would probably need a couple of more minutes of your time. No, this is I'm asking only country liquor. When you make country liquor you will obviously cut your losses by some amount. Correct? Page 7 of9 ,. dhampur Dhampur BioOr9anics Ltd. So okay, I'll frame the question another way. If you were to consume the fu
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Sir, my question is that at the time of demerger, we were told to understand that Dhampur Sugar and Dhampur Bio have similar crushing and similar like assets in sugarcane crushing. So they are moving towards INR 12 crores liters by January to February. So when is our plan to move so increase our ethanol production?
Gautam Goel
Sorry, I didn't -- can you please repeat your question? I didn't understand your question. Sir, I was talking about the Dhampur Sugar and Dhampur Bio at the time of demerger, you were told that you have similar sugarcane crushing and similar capacity that they are moving to INR 12 crores liters by January. So when is ours plan to like and how much can we expand our ethanol production going forward? See our current capacity, Udit is 312,000 litres of ethanol from B-heavy. So if you could calculate that into 350 days, it will come out to upwards of 11 crores liters of Ethanol, which is what we h
Q
Thank you Navin. On behalf ofDBOL we would like to thank all of you for taking out time for conference call. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us either by phone or email. You can also visit our website Dhampur.com and post any queries you have, and we will revert promptly. Thank you very much and have a wonderful day.
Navin Agrawal
Thank you.
Speaking time
Gautam Goel
13
Moderator
6
Udit Gupta
5
Nimis Sheth
4
Kaustubh Pawaskar
3
Navin Agrawal
2
Nalin Gupta
1
Management
1
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Opening remarks
Navin Agrawal
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It's my pleasure to welcome you on behalf of Dhampur Bio Organics Limited and SKP Securities to this financial results conference call. We have with us; Mr. Gautam Goel, Managing Director and his colleagues; Mr. Nalin Gupta, CFO; Mr. Mukul Sharma, COS; Mr. Atul Singh, Head of Sales; Ms. Ashu Rawat, Company Secretary and Ms. Sonika Malhotra, Senior Manager, Finance and Accounts. We'll have the opening remarks from Mr. Goel, followed by a Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Goel.
Gautam Goel
Thank you, Navin. Namaskar and a very warm welcome to the Q2 and Hl FY '23 Dhampur Bio Organics Limited (DBOL) Earnings Conference Call. As you are all aware, the equity shares ofDBOL listed on the BSE and NSE on September 81 \ 2022. The first section of our con call will contain a brief outline of our understanding of the macro environment, and its possible impact on our business. In the second section, we'll give a snapshot of our performance in this quarter, which will then be followed by our CFO, Nalin, running through the financial numbers for the quarter. After which we will be glad to answer any queries, you may have. The macro global and domestic outlook continues to be inflationary and cautious. We are aware the Indian sugar industry produced 36 million tons of sugar and about 3 .5 million tons of sugar was diverted into ethanol production this year. The domestic consumption is pegged at 27 .5 million tons and after a record export of 11 million tons, we would be left with an
Nalin Gupta
Thank you, Gautam, and Namaskar, to everyone. First, I would like to start with our key highlights for this quarter ended September 30, 2022. Our revenue, EBITDA and profit before tax in Q2 FY '23 stood at INR 541.63 crores. EBITDA ofINR 28.15 crores and PBT of INR 10.32 crores, respectively. Our revenues, EBITDA and PBT for the corresponding period last year was INR 359.20 crores, EBITDA ofINR 13.85 crores and PBT ofINR Page 4 of9 ,. dhampur Dhampur BioOr9anics Ltd. 2.53 crores. Profit after tax in this quarter stood at INR 7.56 crores against INR 76 lakhs in the same quarter last year. Our revenue was higher by 52%, EBITDA was higher by 103% and PBT was higher 307% as compared to the previous year in the same quarter. Our interest costs increased to INR 9.10 crores as against the INR 5.98 crores in the same quarter last year. Increase in interest cost is due to higher working capital utilization on account of higher inventory we are carrying and also due to higher interest rate as co
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