HGSNSEDecember 16, 2022

Hinduja Global Solutions Limited

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Management on call
Partha Desarkar
Executive Director and Group CEO, HGS
Srinivas Palakodeti
Global CFO, HGS
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
President and Chief Innovation Officer, HGS
Key numbers — 22 extracted
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the labor arbitrage business that we traditionally have been in the last two decades. Our partners, as we pivot towards a more technology driven services company, in- clude AWS, Microsoft, Twilio, Sp
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in what the TekLink acquisition brings to HGS. We just signed a definitive agreement to acquire 100% stake for US$ 58.8 million, subject to customary and agreed adjustments. There would be earn out
58.8 million
nk acquisition brings to HGS. We just signed a definitive agreement to acquire 100% stake for US$ 58.8 million, subject to customary and agreed adjustments. There would be earn out based payments in the next
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ues, with the acquisition of TekLink, our digital services revenues will end up being close to $100 million of the total revenue base of about $500 million. So that means about 20% of our revenues going fo
500 million
tal services revenues will end up being close to $100 million of the total revenue base of about $500 million. So that means about 20% of our revenues going forward would come from technology services. Which
20%
being close to $100 million of the total revenue base of about $500 million. So that means about 20% of our revenues going forward would come from technology services. Which is a proof point of ou
8.5 million
emember we acquired a com- pany by the name of “Element Solutions” way back in 2018. It had a ~US$ 8.5 million revenue base; over the last four years, we have grown this technology business by a CAGR of 30%
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ion revenue base; over the last four years, we have grown this technology business by a CAGR of 30% year on year. We are not a broad-spectrum IT services company and that segment is increasingly be
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d by analysts. In fact, the 2022 Gartner Peer Insights rates them 4.6 out of 5 and also carries a 97% ‘Would recommend’ score from the clients. If you look at TekLink’s service offerings, it's a broa
20.1 million
e some color in terms of their financial perfor- mance. TekLink’s global revenues for CY20 were US$20.1 million; it increased to US$21.8 million in 2021 despite COVID and somewhat depressed market cond
21.8 million
rfor- mance. TekLink’s global revenues for CY20 were US$20.1 million; it increased to US$21.8 million in 2021 despite COVID and somewhat depressed market conditions, and for the first nine months in
22.5 million
and for the first nine months in the current calendar year, their revenues are approx- imately US$22.5 million. This is a significant growth over both 2020 and 2021 and de- spite the market conditions. You can
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Guidance — 15 items
Partha DeSarkar
opening
The industries that we will target are BFSI, Direct-to-consumer retail or e-commerce (We have significant presence in this area); Technology, Media & Telecom - those who have followed our journey over the last 2 ½ decades know our strength in this seg- ment.
Partha DeSarkar
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We have just signed the transaction and we expect to close it in the next two months.
Partha DeSarkar
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There would be some post signing and pre closure activities that we will be working on for the next two months.
Partha DeSarkar
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So that means about 20% of our revenues going forward would come from technology services.
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
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It had a ~US$ 8.5 million revenue base; over the last four years, we have grown this technology business by a CAGR of 30% year on year.
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
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We expect to take the data and analytics offering and sell it to HGS Digital cli- ents and similarly take our digital customer experience, digital customer engagement, cloud security, contact center transformation offerings to TekLink customers.
Jay Shah
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Secondly, how many years do you expect these synergies to materialize on the cost and revenue front, and thirdly what percentage share do you see in the existing contribution from the US market post this acquisition.
Jay Shah
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Of course, there will be opportunities on the cost side as well, so we'll have additional 210 people com- ing in as HGS employees in India post the acquisition.
Jay Shah
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And obviously there will be scope for synergies on the cost side, and that should happen fairly quickly post closing.
Jay Shah
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we think those synergies would start coming in fairly quickly once the trans- action is complete and we expect about 90 odd days for the integration to get com- pleted.
Risks & concerns — 2 flagged
Now, as we have mentioned from a delivery perspective in this kind of business, it's a combination of what is done in India and also what is being done in US, so it's very difficult to put a number in terms of the impact on the revenue by delivery given that it is entrenched and this is different from the normal BPM work which we do.
Jay Shah
Even in our existing digital business, wherever we go, we have not seen any kind of slowdown, particularly on some of these offerings.
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
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Q&A — 5 exchanges
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We have 3-4 questions in line. We just wanted to understand the rationale behind the valuation that has been considered while acquiring TekLink. I understand it is two times the annual revenues. Secondly, how many years do you expect these synergies to materialize on the cost and revenue front, and thirdly what percentage share do you see in the existing contribution from the US market post this acquisition. I believe the HGS current share is around 30% if we look at the delivery by location share. So how it is going to change post this acquisition? Srinivas Palakodeti: Let me start on the rev
Jay Shah
Just one follow up question. Sir, there is a separate cost which is mentioned around Rs. 2.6 crore for the business transfer agreement. So is it part of this US$ 58.5 million? Srinivas Palakodeti: Yes, it is part of the US$ 58.5 million.
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My question is on the acquisition side. What is your view on the margin front going forward and how much will this company benefit for HGS, as we were doing pretty decent on the healthcare business side, which we already sold. Srinivas Palakodeti: We've already said this company will have EBITDA margins in mid to high teens and that's what we expect going forward. Obviously, we'll try to improve further through cost and revenue synergies, but these margins will be sustainable as we go forward. Natarajan Radhakrishnan: This is comparable to our existing EBITDA margins on the technology side of
Jyoti Singh
Ok, and Sir, what are the geography front? I mean which geography are we targeting through TekLink? Natarajan Radhakrishnan: TekLink is primarily a US focused company. They do have some European cli- ents, particularly in the UK, Spain, and Switzerland. And the India businesses are all global clients. So I would say 90%+ US clients. Ok, so Sir… they have a major revenue from the US approximately 91%. Due to current scenario, are they facing any downside from the macro-economic situation? Interestingly, the analytics side of the IT industry seems to have done very well. The demand continues to
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Since TekLink services are present across industries, which industry contributes the most to its top line.
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
FMCG is the most dominant industry segment. That includes all the consumer companies, food companies, confectionery companies, plus also retail and pharma that is outside FMCC. These three I would say are the top industry segments. OK, and is it possible to share a segmental breakup of each industry for TekLink? Natarajan Radhakrishnan: Yeah, we will come back and do it formally.
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I was just going through the release which was uploaded on the Stock Exchange and it says that we have signed one more letter of intent to acquire uKnowva and so if you can just help us understand the definitive time frame to sign an agreement with that. Srinivas Palakodeti: As we said in the beginning, we would like this session to be focused primarily on TekLink because the other one is at the very early stages, so it's hard to discuss any specified timelines. I would request the questions to be limited to TekLink.
Management
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Thank you for being with us for this call to explain what is the plan going forward with TekLink. I can assure you there are many more that we are lining up as we speak and we'll have many more opportunities to interact as we build our technology capabilities for HGS 2.0. Thank you very much.
Management
Speaking time
Moderator
7
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
3
Jyoti Singh
3
Partha DeSarkar
2
Jay Shah
2
Hina Parekh
2
Rushabh Shah
1
Nayan Gala
1
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Opening remarks
Rushabh Shah
Thank you Faizan. Good evening everyone and a warm welcome to the business up- date call of Hinduja Global Solutions Limited. Please note that today’s call is being held to discuss TekLink acquisition and questions should be limited to this. Before we begin the Investor call, I would like to mention that some of the statements made during the course of today's call may be forward looking in nature and may involve risks and un- certainties including those related to the future financial and operating performances, benefits and synergies of the company's strategies, future opportunities and growth of the market of the company's services and solutions. I would further like to mention that if there is a call drop during the course of the conference call, please bear with the management. Thank you and over to you, Partha sir.
Partha DeSarkar
Thank you and a very good evening to all of you who have joined us for this investor call today. It's our pleasure to present to you our latest acquisition “TekLink” which we announced a couple of days back. TekLink is in the data and analytics space, a cru- cial service offering towards pivoting HGS into the technology enabled digital CX field. You would recall that we divested out of the healthcare business in January 2022. Since then, we have acquired quite a few businesses, which are different from the businesses that we used to do in the past. We entered Australia and acquired Di- versify; then we acquired the digital media business of NXTDIGITAL that just got over. We have been focusing our M&A activity on capability building on the digital customer experience side and TekLink with its capabilities in data and insights is the next logical step in that direction. This acquisition is focused on helping us drive digital led cus- tomer experience services and solutions, and as we go
Natarajan Radhakrishnan
Thanks Partha, very good evening again. My sincere thanks to all the investors who are attending this call. Partha has already explained our vision of being a digital experience company, a technology led company. In the last 12 months, we have taken a lot of steps towards that. I would also like to recount the journey of digital over the last few years before talking about this particular acquisition. This is slide #8 of the investor presentation. You would remember we acquired a com- pany by the name of “Element Solutions” way back in 2018. It had a ~US$ 8.5 million revenue base; over the last four years, we have grown this technology business by a CAGR of 30% year on year. We are not a broad-spectrum IT services company and that segment is increasingly becoming commoditized and price competitive. We have cho- sen to focus on the 3As in a cloud-first model, i.e., Automation, Analytics, and Artificial Intelligence. We are gradually moving away from a services led business to a business
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