BOSCHLTDNSEQ3 FY23February 17, 2023

Bosch Limited

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Management on call
Soumitra Bhattacharya
MANAGING DIRECTOR, BOSCH LIMITED
Guruprasad Mudlapur
JOINT MANAGING
Karin Gilges
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER – BOSCH LIMITED
Annamalai Jayaraj
BATLIVALA & KARANI SECURITIES INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
Karin Gilges
Chief Financial Officer.
Key numbers — 40 extracted
6.6%
on. If you look at India and its economy, IMF expects for the FY '23, a real GDP growth of around 6.6% to 6.8%. India is expected in FY '24 to be anywhere between 5.5% to 6%. And of course, the govern
6.8%
ou look at India and its economy, IMF expects for the FY '23, a real GDP growth of around 6.6% to 6.8%. India is expected in FY '24 to be anywhere between 5.5% to 6%. And of course, the government has
5.5%
'23, a real GDP growth of around 6.6% to 6.8%. India is expected in FY '24 to be anywhere between 5.5% to 6%. And of course, the government has a continued focus on CAPEX as you have seen in the budge
6%
eal GDP growth of around 6.6% to 6.8%. India is expected in FY '24 to be anywhere between 5.5% to 6%. And of course, the government has a continued focus on CAPEX as you have seen in the budget, w
17%
balance and reduce its fiscal deficit. The overall automotive market production has increased by 17% or (+17%) year-on-year in the current quarter. This, of course, excludes two-wheelers. And this i
21%
ghlights of Quarter 3 FY '23. Pass cars segment has outperformed other segments growing by a plus 21% year-on-year, volume growth supported, on one hand, by easing chip supplies to the past. On the o
25 million
-wheeler segment has been stable on a year-on-year basis, albeit nowhere near the past records of 25 million. We expect in the fiscal year '22-'23 to be about 20 plus million. LCV segm
5%
in the fiscal year '22-'23 to be about 20 plus million. LCV segment at plus 5% year-on-year, and the HCV segment has grown on a plus 20% year-on year, albeit on a low base. On
20%
LCV segment at plus 5% year-on-year, and the HCV segment has grown on a plus 20% year-on year, albeit on a low base. On the ground situation, there is a steady fleet utilization
rs,
ticular segment. For instance, the first row recommends the pass cars followed by HCV, LCV, tractors, two-wheelers, three-wheelers, respectively. The first column represents 2018 production volumes, w
INR 36,599 million
omic and automotive sectors. The overall revenue from operations for October to December stood at INR 36,599 million, which is an increase of 17.7% on the comparable basis of the corresponding period of the previ
17.7%
enue from operations for October to December stood at INR 36,599 million, which is an increase of 17.7% on the comparable basis of the corresponding period of the previous year.
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Guidance — 20 items
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
We expect in the fiscal year '22-'23 to be about 20 plus million.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
Based on the numbers in 2023, industry will grow, albeit, of course, at a slower pace over 2020.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
Within PVs, we can continue to expect a shift towards utility vehicles.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
The tractor segment is expected to witness a minor degrowth, of course, on a high base, while two-wheelers will continue to grow, and though it will be well below the 2018 peak, which I spoke about.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
Balance income would be recognized in subsequent quarters on the project completion days of the customers.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
opening
We have told you earlier that we were doing new business areas in the project of electrification, mobility solutions, as well as hydrogen.
Pramod Kumar
qa
And related to that is the extension on the PLI side as to what are the kind of PLI benefits, which you expect for the business, including ICE and the EV side for the foreseeable future as you kind of reduce their import content?
Pramod Kumar
qa
So, how do you see with the entire lot of the focus on EV work being done in India and the PLI scheme, and should one expect reasonable reduction in the percentage contribution from traded goods or imported components for Bosch going forward?
Soumitra Bhattacharya
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So, in Bosch, we always take a stated call, a very calculated call, on phased localization and this is either about our traditional conventional products, or new age products, or even the completely new age like EV and in future, it will be also hydrogen.
Pramod Kumar
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But given the fact that Bosch globally has enough and more reasonably strong capacities and capabilities on the ICE component side, so as the responsibility for Bosch India Limited, the subsidiary in India, the listed entity, would it be wiser to assume that you will be deploying the incremental resources and the focus on electrification where you can do lot more value add in India above, or just simply duplicating capacities in India in addition to what you have at the parent level globally?
Risks & concerns — 5 flagged
The global economy is facing a significant down risk on the growth with persistently high inflation.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
Second, on a very challenging year '22 for the world, including India, where margins were under pressure due to raw material cost increases, electronic cost increases, we have a very clear focused approach, including contracting with our OEMs, and including approaching where we see that either they should pass on or they should share in a win-win basis, and Bosch applies that.
Soumitra Bhattacharya
So, now, once you are giving the quotation to the tractor makers, do you see a risk of further margin dilution from tractors upgrades?
Pramod Amthe
I think we should not underestimate the impact of the possible global recession or slower growth in the developed economies coming our way and impacting us to some extent.
Guruprasad Mudlapur
The uncertainty around energy is generally a big headwind overall for the Auto sector.
Guruprasad Mudlapur
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Q&A — 6 exchanges
Q
Two questions from my side. One is on the RD norms given that many OEMs have decided to exit smart diesel, how are we progressing on our gasoline portfolio? Are we seeing market share gains on that side? Are we also getting more traction on the gasoline direct injection system given mainstream OEMs are launching products on that technology?
Soumitra Bhattacharya
Jinesh, I think there are two points. Since you said that they are going away from small scale diesel, small diesel engine, I would just like to say that you must remember that diesel, which had gone up to a 48% market share has come down to 18%, but it’s stable around that. So, the 18% may come down to 16% or so, but it’s not going to, you know, go down to 10% and 5%. So, first, you must remember that there are certain segment of utility vehicles, which are selling still well, albeit at a lower market share percentage on diesel. Number one. Number two, on gasoline, though relative to diesel,
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Sir, my first question is pertaining to the electrification side. We have seen rapid EV adoption on the two-wheeler side. And a lot of new companies, lot of component companies have started to launch motors and win big orders, substantial orders. Some of your peers on the listed side have gone on the public record to state the kind of order wins they are getting. But in that context, if you can just share how Bosch is faring in the two-wheeler EV and the three-wheeler EV side, sir, in terms of what’s the kind of prospective look you are seeing for this business? And related to that is the exte
Soumitra Bhattacharya
Let me start with the PLI. And then with a couple of remarks, I would request also my colleague and our JMD to come in on that. So, first on the PLI, we have extensively worked with the government on advanced technologies. And I think the government has taken a very good approach to take tech agnostic inputs and really put in advanced technologies. And we compliment the government. Like all other companies or many other companies, we have also applied for the PLIs. And we believe that over the years, because this is a timeframe, you will see, you know, that the PLI usage, we will do in a prope
Q
I have three specific questions. First is on the margins, you know, especially the contribution margins. If we look at this particular quarter, you know, it is something like close to 40% contribution margins now. This is despite you talking about high-cost inventory impacting the overall raw material cost. So, considering that, I mean, I am just trying to understand, is there any further high cost inventories still left? And on the pricing part, where are we irrespective of recovery of both the raw material and the FOREX? So, that is one. Second is, largely, the question on the CAPEX side. Yo
Soumitra Bhattacharya
So, Viraj, you have asked many questions. So, I will try to give you quick, short answers. Look, on the margins, I told you, first of all, we want to turn in healthy margins under, the world is going through challenging circumstances. So, I would link up the margins to your price recovery and electronics. So, A, because of a good order book, you see very steady and improved growth. Number one. Second, on a very challenging year '22 for the world, including India, where margins were under pressure due to raw material cost increases, electronic cost increases, we have a very clear focused approa
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So, first question is with regard to your aftermarket business. It’s impressive to hear about the business scaling a new high. Traditionally, we have seen aftermarket business is a very superior profit margin for any of the companies. But if I have to look at your firm in spite of the aftermarket scaling new high, the overall company margins are much, much lower. Wanted to know, has the aftermarket characteristics have changed towards more of services than products? Because products are legacy products on the aftermarket. So, why is this margin tailwind not coming through in the aftermarket bu
Soumitra Bhattacharya
So, Pramod, I have given you feedback that we are happy that our aftermarket has not really done wrong but has become a strong market leader. And we are really happy that aftermarket has focused on top line, bottom line, cash, net working capital, market share, as well as great place to work. Now, I would slightly defer on what you said on aftermarket being traditional. There are many new-age areas where we get a lot of help from our parent on, you know, our analytics that we have with the Bosch machines across all models and platforms for vehicles. I mentioned, and I would like to repeat, we
Q
Let’s start with the tailwinds. And I will request my colleagues also to give a couple of sentences on that. India is on a sweeter spot. Therefore, Indian industry has a sweeter spot chance and therefore, Automotive industry overall. We from Bosch India and Bosch Limited would like to capture the sweeter spot and be a part of this market journey, because of our very strongly embedded processors, innovations and affordability. We have done it in the past. We are committed to doing it in the future. Headwinds, we are in a critical situation of election year. If we continue like a growth-driven,
Karin Gilges
Perhaps from my side, we see in the headwinds at least a certain of where we have to be careful or take care of is in the suppliers situation, the whole supply chain all over the world. And we are currently in a quite good situation also with the semiconductor. Nevertheless, it’s still fragile. And therefore, we will carefully consider all these constraints in the supplier base and in the supply chains and yes, this is where we have to take care of. I think we should not underestimate the impact of the possible global recession or slower growth in the developed economies coming our way and imp
Q
My question is, one is on the raw material side. I think you have said that from sales 66.8%, it has come down to 2.9%. So, is it like, say, 80, 90 basis point you have got some benefit quarter- on-quarter because of added cost benefit? Is it the right understanding?
Guruprasad Mudlapur
Yes. Since you have talked about that, I have to set the numbers in the right context, please. So, the question is very valid, but I would request you to please refer to what I mentioned. I said that in this quarter of October-December '22, the material cost as a percentage of total revenue from operations is 60%. And when you compare the like-to-like of material cost as percentage to total revenue from operations, the previous quarter, that means October-December of '21, previous year same quarter, was 60.8%. However, now this, however, is very important. Material cost as a percentage of net
Speaking time
Soumitra Bhattacharya
15
Moderator
9
Viraj Kacharia
5
Jinesh Gandhi
4
Guruprasad Mudlapur
4
Priyaranjan
4
Pramod Kumar
3
Pramod Amthe
3
Karin Gilges
1
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Opening remarks
Soumitra Bhattacharya
Thank you, Annamalai Jayaraj. A very good afternoon to all the colleagues who are participating in this call. Today, I would like to brief you a little bit on the macroeconomic policy as well as what’s happening on the automotive market, and then I will walk you through our financials. And finally, I would like to tell you something about the quarter relating to our business. The global economy is facing a significant down risk on the growth with persistently high inflation. If you look at India and its economy, IMF expects for the FY '23, a real GDP growth of around 6.6% to 6.8%. India is expected in FY '24 to be anywhere between 5.5% to 6%. And of course, the government has a continued focus on CAPEX as you have seen in the budget, while, of course, also trying to balance and reduce its fiscal deficit. The overall automotive market production has increased by 17% or (+17%) year-on-year in the current quarter. This, of course, excludes two-wheelers. And this is on a low base of Quarte
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