Lupin Limited
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Management on call
Vinita Gupta
CEO, LUPIN LIMITED
Nilesh Gupta
MANAGING DIRECTOR, LUPIN LIMITED
Ramesh Swaminathan
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, GLOBAL CFO AND HEAD CORPORATE AFFAIRS, LUPIN LIMITED
Key numbers — 40 extracted
11.5%
10.2%
INR 4,742 crore
INR 4,330 crore
9.5%
31.6%
INR 3,604 crore
4,537 crore
4.8%
25.9%
3.6%
49%
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Guidance — 20 items
Vinita Gupta
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“We expect to see material improvement in the rest of this fiscal year as we launch Tiotropium and other new products in the US as well as our sales force expansion in India starts yielding expected productivity from Q2 onwards.”
Vinita Gupta
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“On the compliance front we have made progress with positive outcomes with Pithampur Unit-2 warning letter clearance that will enable us to launch Ophthalmic products filed from the site in particular products like Prolensa where we were first to file as well as other ophthalmic products next year.”
Vinita Gupta
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“that will enable us to launch important products like PROLENSA, where we are first to file, as well as other ophthalmic products next year.”
Vinita Gupta
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“We expect fiscal year '24 to be strong with quarter-after-quarter improvement in revenues and profitability.”
Vinita Gupta
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“We have endeavoured to live up to that guidance.”
Vinita Gupta
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“We do expect this margin to sustain We have improved significantly from last year Q1, when our gross margin was 55.3% to the current levels of 63.8%.”
Vinita Gupta
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“We expect to launch it later this quarter.”
Vinita Gupta
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“I mean, at this point we believe that we will be the only generic in the marketplace.”
Damayanti Kerai
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“Or we expect further increase in this number?”
Damayanti Kerai
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“We do expect, in fact, the gross margins to kind of sustain at the current level.”
Risks & concerns — 8 flagged
Cardiology and Respiratory TA’s grew better than market growth, our Diabetes TA that has been a challenge for the last many quarters due to loss of exclusivity of key in-licensed brands is now back to growth as planned by our team.
— Vinita Gupta
We don't have plans to commercialize these -- the NCEs ourselves or take on major risk on the NCE front ourselves.
— Vinita Gupta
I think what's happened is the risk profile of the product has improved significantly.
— Nilesh Gupta
Yes, generic Advair certainly was a big challenge for us, partly due to the fact that it was not under our roof.
— Vinita Gupta
We were doing the development in a August 4, 2023 partnership with Ceylon and Poland, which made it a challenge for us.
— Vinita Gupta
The only challenge that I have is many of them have one-off opportunities in terms of special products that are there as well.
— Vinita Gupta
And that's as a result of the fact that over the last couple of years, there's been so much pricing pressure, it pushed a number of companies out of markets.
— Vinita Gupta
Right now, drug shortages is a huge concern that we've heard from folks on the hill, in the U.S., as well as from the FDA, as well as other stakeholders.
— Vinita Gupta
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Opening remarks
Vinita Gupta
Thank you. Good afternoon, folks. I am very pleased to welcome you to our Q1 FY24 earnings call. I have with me our MD Nilesh as well as our CFO Ramesh. We look forward to sharing our Q1 highlights and outlook for the fiscal year. We are very pleased to start the new fiscal year strong with continued momentum across our major regions, improving compliance position, multiple new product approvals and improvement in operating margins. Our India business is firmly back to double digit growth and the US business margin has continued to improve. We expect to see material improvement in the rest of this fiscal year as we launch Tiotropium and other new products in the US as well as our sales force expansion in India starts yielding expected productivity from Q2 onwards. Our India business recorded an 11.5% growth QoQ and 10.2% growth YOY and this is after the NLEM impact as well as CIDMUS brand that we had in the base last year. Cardiology and Respiratory TA’s grew better than market growth,
Vinita Gupta
credit loans in India and also retired some debt in Australia. With this, we could open the floor for discussions. Thank you very much, sir. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Please raise your hands from the participant tab on the screen to ask questions. We will wait for 30 seconds for the queue to assemble. So, bear with us, please. So, the first question is from Damayanti Kerai. Please go ahead, ma'am. Yes. Hi, good afternoon. My first question is, can you update us on your launch plan for Spiriva in the U.S. in terms of preparation, and when you are going to launch it, and also your view on the market, specifically market shift which could possibly happen from Respimat to Handihaler. So that's my first question. Yes, so we are actively working towards a launch this quarter. We expect to launch it later this quarter. And well time will tell if we can really switch share back from Respimat to Spiriva. I mean, at this point we believe that we will be the only generic in th
Damayanti Kerai
Okay. And ma'am, earlier, I think you mentioned the addressable market size for you is around $1 billion? Or like what is the addressable market you'll be working for this launch?
Damayanti Kerai
But that includes both HandiHaler and Respimat, right? It's a total market, not only the HandiHaler part.
Damayanti Kerai
Okay. My second question is your other expense trend. So, Ramesh, obviously mentioned what has led to quarter-on-quarter increase, as well as year-on- year increase. But should we take the current quarter number as the base going ahead? Or we expect further increase in this number? And I'm asking specifically because you have been talking about cost saving goals, et cetera. So where we can see benefit of cost saving on say other operating expense or some other line item. Ramesh Swaminathan: Yes, so let me explain. We do expect, in fact, the gross margins to kind of sustain at the current level. So it is certainly going to be elevated, but you would also appreciate we've been talking about, in fact, a higher quantum of investments on the sales and promotion front, especially in India, and we've added about 1,300 people in Q3, Q4 of last year. So obviously, this will also be reflected in higher expenditure, on account of that, it will then commensurate increase in terms of the sales itself.
Damayanti Kerai
Ramesh Swaminathan: Yeah, so what we had said was perhaps in the fourth quarter, you could see an exit rate of over 18%. We're sticking to that, and we are confident of actually exceeding that.
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