KRBLNSENovember 09, 2023

KRBL Limited

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Management on call
Anoop Kumar Gupta
JOINT MANAGING
Ayush Gupta
HEAD OF DOMESTIC DIVISION – KRBL LIMITED
Ashish Jain
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER – KRBL LIMITED
Key numbers — 40 extracted
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like to invite Anoopji to share his views. Anoop Kumar Gupta: Thank you, Ashish. Dear investors, good afternoon. The world rice production in marketing year FY'23-'24, despite El Nino condition i
518.14 million
The world rice production in marketing year FY'23-'24, despite El Nino condition is estimated at 518.14 million tons, which is higher by 0.87% against previous year. In spite of higher production, global rice
0.87%
ar FY'23-'24, despite El Nino condition is estimated at 518.14 million tons, which is higher by 0.87% against previous year. In spite of higher production, global rice prices continue to be high on a
24%
date report, the FAO or rice price index averaged 138.9 points in October '23, which is higher by 24% than its level a year ago. Just to give perspective, Thailand's 5% local rice is today quoted at
5%
tober '23, which is higher by 24% than its level a year ago. Just to give perspective, Thailand's 5% local rice is today quoted at above $560 per ton, which is up by about $149 per ton from year ago
8%
ars, India's rice production is expected to fall this year. That is July '23 to June '24 by about 8% despite an increase in the area planted mainly due to uneven monsoon. India's rice production in
135.75 million
ted mainly due to uneven monsoon. India's rice production in the crop year '2022-'23 is at around 135.75 million tons. The 20'23-'24 rice production is estimated to drop by 7% to 8% from the previous year.
7%
'2022-'23 is at around 135.75 million tons. The 20'23-'24 rice production is estimated to drop by 7% to 8% from the previous year. The Government of India estimated that '2023 kharif rice
4%
The Government of India estimated that '2023 kharif rice production -- declined by about 4% to 106.3 million tons. The total production estimate will be released in February '2024. Basmati
106.3 million
The Government of India estimated that '2023 kharif rice production -- declined by about 4% to 106.3 million tons. The total production estimate will be released in February '2024. Basmati production for th
14.5 million
be released in February '2024. Basmati production for the year '2023-'24 is expected to be around 14.5 million tons of paddy as per the final satellite mapping report, which is about 8% to 9% higher than over
9%
around 14.5 million tons of paddy as per the final satellite mapping report, which is about 8% to 9% higher than over to last year. Despite the overall increase in rice production in the basmati seg
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Guidance — 13 items
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
It is not known as to when the restriction will be eased out.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
The total production estimate will be released in February '2024.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
As I had mentioned in earlier calls, Saudi market is a INR1,000 crores opportunity, of which we hope to attain up to INR700 crores in the first year once both the retail and HoReCa distribution is stabilized.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
We are trying to find solution and we are confident that we will be able to resolve this issue.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
As we have shared earlier, Kandla project has already been commissioned and started.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
opening
For any other clarification or information, we will be happy to discuss and elaborate during the Q&A session.
Ayush Gupta
opening
Our strategic pillars are guiding us towards a promising future and we eagerly anticipate to the journey ahead.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
qa
Even after 3-6 months we go into the market, to achieve INR700 -800 crores will be a cakewalk for us.
Himanshu Upadhyay
qa
And in that scenario, what will be our strategy if that happens?
Anoop Kumar Gupta
qa
So going forward, if the carry forward stock is also there, 7% - 9%, there is no problem.
Risks & concerns — 4 flagged
The situation is further escalated by geopolitical conditions around the world, which have raised food security concern for many rice importing countries.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
India banned the export of non-basmati white rice in July this year amid concerns of a decline in production as well as to lower domestic prices.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
It is still too difficult to predict the pricing behavior of the balance 60% crop, which is still to come, whether the price will go down or they will further firm up.
Anoop Kumar Gupta
So it's difficult to give market-wise numbers.
Ashish Jain
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Q&A — 7 exchanges
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The domestic performance has been very impressive and congratulations to your team on that. I just wanted to focus a little bit on the export side. I know there were some remarks initially but if you could just delve a little bit deeper. Specifically in the last quarter's call, we discussed that a new distributor has been appointed in Saudi Arabia. So if you could just shed some light on how that relationship is going. Particularly, I noticed that there's a recent announcement on the stock exchange regarding some litigation from the distributor who had been appointed prior to that. And then se
Ashish Jain
Yes, sure. So just to clarify, I think we had mentioned on the last call that we are in the process of identifying the new distributor. So having said that, as we mentioned in earlier calls, so from our point of view, Saudi on the branded side is roughly INR1,000 crores opportunity. And we currently have a distributor there. However, we are in touch with the existing distributor. There were performance issues with the existing distributor, we were also prospecting for a new distributor. So that process is currently on. And like you mentioned, the existing distributor has filed some litigation,
Q
The 60% fall in exports, is it only because of Saudi Arabia or other geographies also did not do pretty well for us?
Ashish Jain
Yes. I think 2 points. One is, it's not just because of Saudi. There were some exports in the same quarter last year. There were bulk exports to China of non-basmati rice. So as you know, that non-basmati export is not possible currently. So there are dual impacts. One is of the Saudi market and the second major impact is of non-basmati bulk exports, which happened last year. Okay. And I think the time government first export ban was at USD 1250 and then they reduced it. It led to some price volatility, so earlier the price of basmati for procurement was low and then it increased. Did you bene
Q
Sir, so I wanted to understand for exports for the second half of the financial year, I mean, first half, we had a sharp fall in the overall sales. What is the outlook for exports for the H2?
Ashish Jain
Yes. So I think what Anoop ji had mentioned in his speech is that, the key factor that has affected the export side is the Saudi distribution. So I think once that is normalized, we are looking at gradually building up to a INR700 crores revenue line. Now in terms of timing, we are hoping that we are able to conclude all the existing discussions by the end of this quarter. And therefore, see a ramp-up back in Q4. we'll able to give you more updates on this as the discussion progresses. Okay. And secondly, with respect to this non-basmati piece of the revenue, we had a INR55 crores for the dome
Q
My question is regarding your export sales. Actually, if you see in the last quarter of this year, you had mentioned that there was INR441 crores of sales, it moved out to the first quarter of this year. So if you remove that, then the export drop seems to be further. Now you have explained as far as the Chinese the bulk sales and the Saudi go. But if you remove this on the other markets, how are we doing? Removing these one-off factors on the other markets where there is no discontinuity, what has been the trend in volume as far as exports is concerned?
Ashish Jain
Yes. So I think the other markets continue to perform well. We are not seeing any challenges there. In fact, the demand continues to be strong even in some of the other Middle East markets. So not seeing any challenges on other countries. And any indication what the growth in those markets would be in the first half of the year versus last year? So it's difficult to give market-wise numbers. We generally don't share.
Q
Any good and a big distributor wants exclusivity. That's a prime thing, if you want to have a very big distributor who is already doing $1 - $2 billion business, he wants to be a exclusive dealing with with KRBL.
Ashish Jain
Yes. And just to add to that, it's not that we have a policy of having exclusive distributors. In fact, there are markets in which there are multiple distributors in the HoReCa side, right? So it really depends upon the distribution landscape of that country. Abhishek Maheshwari Okay. So there clearly is not much of a choice when it comes to Saudi, you have to go with a big exclusive relationship. And it was only a retail distributor. We always diversify retail in HoReCa. It's always through different distribution channels. . Abhishek Maheshwari Any chances of settlement with the existing dist
Q
Just had a question regarding the litigation that the company is undergoing from AQM which the party which we had appointed. So is AQM the party which we have appointed last year ? And what is our current existing relationship with the distributor that we have appointed this year? And are we selling to them right now or those things are also not happening right now?
Ashish Jain
Yes. AQM was appointed in January 2022. So we continue to have a live agreement with them. However, there is no offtake by them for the last several months. So that's really the update. Okay. AQM was the retail distributor, right? Have we appointed a separate HoReCa distributor then? No, not yet. So that, I think search process is currently on. Right. Any expected time lines on that? Yes. So I think that we are in close discussions with several parties. and I think pretty close to finalization for the HoReCa side.
Q
Sir, as far as I recall, in last call, you had mentioned that by 15th of August, this HoReCa distributor would be appointed and it seems that still the HoReCa distributor is not there. Any particular reason for that?
Ashish Jain
Yes. Jaspreet, I think what we are looking for is to identify a long-term partner. So we met with several parties but I think we don't want to rush on this decision. So that's really the status of that particular side. Like I had mentioned, some parties have been shortlisted. We are hoping to conclude this quickly. Ashish, it seems that your Saudi is totally decimated right now. Nothing is being sold there. And Do you think you should have made a disclosure on the exchange regarding on appointment of HoReCa or litigation with the retail guy? No. So I think we have made an announcement on the l
Speaking time
Ashish Jain
19
Moderator
9
Anoop Kumar Gupta
9
Himanshu Upadhyay
8
Karan Gupta
3
Subhankar Ojha
3
Sahej Grewal
3
Jaspreet Singh
3
Ayush Gupta
2
Koushik Sekhar
2
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Opening remarks
Ashish Jain
Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to the Q2 FY '24 Earnings Conference Call for Analysts and Investors of KRBL Limited. Today, we have Mr. Anoop Kumar Gupta, Joint Managing Director; and Mr. Ayush Gupta, Head of Domestic Division, as key speakers on the call. To kick off the call, Mr. Anoop Kumar Gupta will provide updates on the business, industry and an overall strategy on behalf of Chairman and Managing Director, Anil Kumar Mittal. Following that, Ayush will delve into the perspectives of our domestic business. Finally, I will present the financial overview of the company for the second quarter Q2 and H1 of FY '23-24. Once the management has concluded their opening remarks, we will open the floor for an interactive question-and-answer session. Please note that some of the statements made during the call may contain forward-looking information and actual results may differ from these statements. For more details, you can refer to KRBL's investor presentation, which i
Anoop Kumar Gupta
Thank you, Ashish. Dear investors, good afternoon. The world rice production in marketing year FY'23-'24, despite El Nino condition is estimated at 518.14 million tons, which is higher by 0.87% against previous year. In spite of higher production, global rice prices continue to be high on account of El Nino threat. The situation is further escalated by geopolitical conditions around the world, which have raised food security concern for many rice importing countries. Furthermore, the policy responses by many of the exporting countries, especially India, have not been favorable to the global scenario, which has led to further panic and uncertainty into the global trade. According to the latest FAO Rice Price Update report, the FAO or rice price index averaged 138.9 points in October '23, which is higher by 24% than its level a year ago. Just to give perspective, Thailand's 5% local rice is today quoted at above $560 per ton, which is up by about $149 per ton from year ago. The Governmen
Ayush Gupta
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It is with great pleasure that I present to you the results of our India business for the second quarter of the fiscal year 2024. Our unwavering commitment to excellence and our strategic acumen have borne fruit, propelling us to new heights in the market. Let us commence with the highlights of our Q2 FY '24 performance, where our revenue, excluding power increased to INR940 crores. This represents a growth of 35% compared to the same period last year, underscoring the strength of our financial performance. In the core facets of our operations, the basmati business registered a strong 26% growth in volume, under which the consumer pack business and bulk pack business experienced noteworthy growth rates of 13% and 52%, respectively. These double-digit growth figures affirm the robust expansion of our brand's retail presence across geographies. Our market share in the traditional trade sector increased to 34.5%, a significant increase of 310 basis po
Ashish Jain
Thank you, Ayush. I will now take you through the performance of the quarter and H1 ended 30th September '23. All figures mentioned by me will refer consolidated financials of KRBL Limited. Total income for the quarter stood at INR1,246 crores, lower by 7% over the corresponding quarter last year. Other income in the quarter increased by 61% on account of mark-to-market investment gains and higher yield on investments. Domestic revenue, excluding power, increased by 35% over the corresponding quarter last year to INR940 crores. Year-on-year basmati sales increased by 35% in the domestic segment, driven by 26% growth in volume, which was at 117,000 MT and 7% growth in basmati realization which was at INR71,400 per ton. On the export side, Q2 revenue of INR235 crores which includes some one-offs declined by 60% over the corresponding quarter. Outlook for this segment has already been covered in comments of Anoop ji. Gross margin in the quarter was 29% and was affected by higher basmati u
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