BATAINDIANSEQ2 FY24November 14, 2023

Bata India Limited

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81turns
7analyst exchanges
4executives
Management on call
Gunjan Shah
MANAGING DIRECTOR AND
Anil Somani
DIRECTOR FINANCE AND CHIEF
Nitin Bagaria
- COMPANY SECRETARY – BATA INDIA LIMITED
Gaurav Jogani
AXIS CAPITAL
Key numbers — 25 extracted
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also installation of a significant engineering capability on the IMEVA, which should, amongst others, basically also fuel the float scope. Staying nimble on costs, overarching all across the entire
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ow moving towards making sure that existing partners open more and more stores. Right now, almost 40% of our new store openings come from existing partners. We want to ramp it up to almost 60%. And
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most 40% of our new store openings come from existing partners. We want to ramp it up to almost 60%. And I think that's a good sign that basically partners that are people who understand Bata, peop
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iness, which is a significant addition in addition to the pie that you see here. We do now almost 4% to 5% of our retail turnover coming from Omni- channel, and that has now been, it was with a toe b
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which is a significant addition in addition to the pie that you see here. We do now almost 4% to 5% of our retail turnover coming from Omni- channel, and that has now been, it was with a toe being d
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stores of 60 stores that we had launched it in, 62 stores. It is now contributing to almost about 2% to 3% within that range across these stores in terms of same store growths. Our ambition is to ma
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of 60 stores that we had launched it in, 62 stores. It is now contributing to almost about 2% to 3% within that range across these stores in terms of same store growths. Our ambition is to make sur
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ve stocks getting replenished on it. We had a very exciting response. It was that ASPs, which are 2x of the Power ASP itself and which is, which itself is 2x of the Bata ASP. So we feel very excit
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quarter as well as this quarter, which takes up this entire piece to a desired level of at least 30% and which based on response that we see and some modifications, we would like that 30% variableiz
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ving to slide number six, the financial highlights. As you can see, revenues were muted at about -1%. I think EBITDA came in relatively stronger at about 12.8% growth. This was, as I said, a combina
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ou can see, revenues were muted at about -1%. I think EBITDA came in relatively stronger at about 12.8% growth. This was, as I said, a combination of two, three things. One is student management in ter
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ve talked about in my previous chart. We did have an exceptional item that gave us a hit of about INR41 crores related to the VRS that I talked about in South Bend, resulting in a depressed back at about INR
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Guidance — 20 items
Nitin Bagaria
opening
We will be taking you along the presentation on this call.
Gunjan Shah
opening
And I will talk about each of these in some detail going forward in the subsequent charts.
Gunjan Shah
opening
There will be obviously additions that we do, which is the smaller ones, which is on SIS.
Gunjan Shah
opening
And we are having strong ambitions going forward on that front.
Gunjan Shah
opening
However, as I said, COCO versus franchise will be in the ratio of about 80-20 at a ballpark level.
Gunjan Shah
opening
I think I had stated that basically by FY25, we wanted about 500 stores.
Gunjan Shah
opening
As I had mentioned, we will now be, and as you can see, and I will talk about it a little more in subsequent quarters also, we will be now wanting to look at depth and extraction.
Gunjan Shah
opening
So that will be a big pivot that we will see within the distribution business going forward.
Gunjan Shah
opening
And the thumb rule for that, which I have set for the team, is that we need to see 4% to 5% same store growth from Apparel contribution to the store sales, which gives us a good understanding that we are consistently able to scale this up going forward.
Gunjan Shah
opening
India In addition to obviously, associations that we have with brands like Hush Puppies and now even Nine West going forward.
Risks & concerns — 5 flagged
Also, excluding the impact of the shift in the festive, what would our growth have looked or SSG either way you want to comment on it?
Nihal Jham
There is some early signs of impact of the festive season coming through as well as obviously the campaign and initiatives, etcetera.
Gunjan Shah
Those were like weak areas of our business.
Girish Pai
So if you can bifurcate for us, what kind of growth rate drag you see from the franchisee piece of the business in the overall numbers?
Gaurav Jogani
And which, as I mentioned in my presentation, that we are not only now successfully penetrated across the entire COCO network to a significant level, but also now opened up the entire franchise network to it, which allows the franchisee to also access the entire portfolio of ours without having to take the risk on some slow moving or high premium articles.
Gunjan Shah
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Q&A — 7 exchanges
Q
Good evening, Gunjan. Three questions from my side if I could take it. On the growth part of it, you did allude to that there was a shift in the festive feeling. Would it be possible to get more sense on that from the perspective of what was the for the quarter ballpark and what, in your opinion, was the impact in the shift in the festive one-year performance? India
Nitin Bagaria
Nihal, you said SSG, what? Can you just repeat that question, please? I'm so sorry. I was saying that I was looking for what was the ballpark SSG for this quarter, given that we've done quite an aggressive store addition versus last year. Also, excluding the impact of the shift in the festive, what would our growth have looked or SSG either way you want to comment on it? I think, basically, the piece that is there is on store additions. I have mentioned this because a large number of them come from a franchise, so it cannot be numerically added in terms of weightage. However, on SSG, we were a
Q
Yes, thanks a lot for the opportunity. Gunjan, we have been speaking about Bata India becoming a sourcing point for Bata Global for its footwear needs. Where are we in that journey? Can you just give some update on that?
Gunjan Shah
Yes. So the journey continues, Girish. Actually, now we have most probably done this year a significant start to it by exporting to almost something like about, half a dozen countries of the Bata footprint. The piece is progressing as per plan. It is also now working on basically also ensuring that whatever was getting connected, there were separate teams that were also sourcing for Bata. That is also getting merged and therefore getting supervised in. And I would say that, this is working pretty aggressively. And we will keep updating you on that front on how we progress on that. We should be
Q
Yes, thanks for the opportunity. Sir, my first question is on the premiumization bit. So where do we currently stand in our overall sneakerisation and premiumization journey? Because ever since we started setting up sneaker studios in our stores, it has been more than seven quarters, eight quarters. At the same time, our pace of, adding sneaker studios in stores, that has also fallen down significantly since last two quarters. I mean, hardly 30 or 35 to 45 stores is what we are adding up. So can you please give some understanding over there?
Gunjan Shah
Yes. So, Varun, basically the entire piece, there were multiple legs to this entire sneakerization story. So if I dial back a little, almost about 18 months to 20 months back is when we started this entire sneaker studio concept, which was bringing across the entire offering of sneakers under the Bata banners together and make sure that it impacts the consumers. India That was the first leg that fired off. The next piece, I think very closely, but I think came with a slight lag of about, let's say, a quarter or two quarter was basically entire merchandise and bringing in basically fresher styl
Q
So my question is with regards to, if we see that while the premium part of the portfolio is seeing good growth rates, both Floats, Hush Puppies, even if I consider the base, and the North Star piece as well, which means that the value end of the segment, is it declining in high double digits or maybe mid teens kind of a number? Would that understanding be right?
Gunjan Shah
And especially when you look at the one that is below INR500, yes, you are right. But as I mentioned to someone else just a few minutes back, we are slowly seeing that now narrowing down the gap that we had, let's say about three quarters, four quarters back of premium significantly outstripping the mass. I think that the trends are now slowly converging. And that I mentioned it, that these go through cycles, and we are hopeful that they will, how do you say the mass market should also start bouncing back. I think consumers have seen a lot of inflation, we have taken up prices, let's say two y
Q
Thank you for the opportunity, sir. So my question is, I wanted to understand our strategy and initiatives on Tier 2s and beyond. So I do understand our renovations and sneaker studio launches and pre-management for Tier 1. But how are we looking to grow in Tier 2s and beyond?
Gunjan Shah
Okay. Can you just, Abhishek, repeat that question? It was a little muffled. Yea. I said it's very heartening to see our sneakerization and premiumization story. But I was asking, how do we look to grow in Tier 2? What are our initiatives and strategies for that? India Okay. So multiple legs, Abhishek, on that front. So first and foremost is what I was just talking to the previous caller, which was on the franchise expansion, a large part of the franchise expansion. So let's say, for example, over the last four quarters, we would have added almost about 120-odd stores in franchise alone. I thi
Q
Good evening, sir. So my first question is just a clarification. You did mention in your TV interview today that you are targeting a double digit growth. So, are you targeting this group even in this year, FY '24?
Gunjan Shah
No. So my comment was on what's the medium term vision that we carry. And that is obviously that we want to make sure that we have a double digit growth, a profitable growth is what I mentioned. Right. So, we will stay with it. That's the vision and the levers and the plans that we carry. As I mentioned, like last two quarters, we've seen obviously some up and downs, so those will correct for themselves, but we will stay with that vision. Okay. And second is the INR5,000 crore revenue target for 2025. Just a clarification, this is a calendar year target or, I mean, like FY ‘26 target? I think
Q
So thank you everyone for joining us. Looking forward to interacting with you again. Thank you everyone. Thanks forum.
Management
Speaking time
Gunjan Shah
29
Nihal Jham
10
Moderator
9
Abhishek Getam
7
Girish Pai
5
Gaurav Jogani
4
Nitin Bagaria
4
Varun Singh
4
Ankit Babel
4
Anil Somani
3
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Opening remarks
Gaurav Jogani
Yea, hello everyone. On behalf of Axis Capital, it is my pleasure to host Bata's Q2 FY24 earnings conference call. From the management today, we have with us Mr. Gunjan Shah, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Anil Somani, Director Finance and Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Nitin Bagaria, Company Secretary. Thank you and over to you, sir.
Nitin Bagaria
Thanks, Gaurav and Axis Capital. A warm welcome to all of you. We have Gunjan, who is our Indian CEO. We have Mr. Anil, who is Director Finance and CFO. We have shared the presentation with the stock exchanges a little while earlier. We will be taking you along the presentation on this call. We will navigate the slides as well as the page numbers to stay connected. On slide number two, we have the disclaimer. I'm sure you have gone through the same. I hand over to Gunjan now and thanks again for joining. Hi, everyone.
Gunjan Shah
Hi, everyone. I hope you all are getting my voice. So, I will then start off on slide number three, which is the layout of the entire short presentation that we have for you. And then we will open up for Q&A. Moving on to the next slide, on some big highlights, before we get on to some operational highlights, the footprint extended to about 2150 in terms of points of sale. We did also in recent past conclude the strategic alliance with Global Brand 9 West to enhance the global style offerings to Indian consumers. Sneaker Studios continues to expand to now almost 600 and plus stores. Floatz has our casual washable footwear offering, which was started almost about two years back, continues to keep ramping up every quarter. And we are now backed with further manufacturing investments, etcetera. We feel very robustly on it and that continues to grow well. And our technology investments are on track. HbM has already gone live and the merchandising tool has gone live. And the other big piece
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