BANDHANBNKNSEQ3 FY25February 04, 2025

Bandhan Bank Limited

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Management on call
Partha Pratim Sengupta
MD AND CEO, BANDHAN BANK LIMITED
Ratan Kumar
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, BANDHAN BANK LIMITED
Rajinder Kumar Babbar
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR & CHIEF BUSINESS OFFICER, BANDHAN BANK LIMITED
Rajeev Mantri
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, BANDHAN BANK LIMITED
Vikash Mundhra
HEAD OF INVESTOR RELATIONS, BANDHAN BANK LIMITED
Key numbers — 40 extracted
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to build a strong MSME book as it has a huge potential. We endeavored to achieve a secured mix of 55% plus by FY27. Growth in EEB book will also continue albeit at a relatively lower pace.
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nue albeit at a relatively lower pace. Risk, Governance and Compliance: As carrier bankers, we understand the importance of risk and compliance. We are committed to embedding risk management
Rs. 1.32 lakh crore
and our growth in deposits exceeds the growth in advances. In this quarter, advances book was at Rs. 1.32 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 14%. On the deposits side, deposits stands at Rs. 1.41 lakh crore with a
14%
in advances. In this quarter, advances book was at Rs. 1.32 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 14%. On the deposits side, deposits stands at Rs. 1.41 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 20%, which
Rs. 1.41 lakh crore
was at Rs. 1.32 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 14%. On the deposits side, deposits stands at Rs. 1.41 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 20%, which is higher than the advances growth. The degrowth over the la
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owth of 14%. On the deposits side, deposits stands at Rs. 1.41 lakh crore with a Y-to-Y growth of 20%, which is higher than the advances growth. The degrowth over the last quarter in deposits is la
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aken as a strategic decision. Our share of retail deposits, CASA plus retail term deposits is now 69%. CASA deposits grew 6% Y-to-Y with CASA share of nearly 32%. We are making steady progr
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sion. Our share of retail deposits, CASA plus retail term deposits is now 69%. CASA deposits grew 6% Y-to-Y with CASA share of nearly 32%. We are making steady progress on our diversificat
32%
CASA plus retail term deposits is now 69%. CASA deposits grew 6% Y-to-Y with CASA share of nearly 32%. We are making steady progress on our diversification agenda, whereby in this quarter,
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ogress on our diversification agenda, whereby in this quarter, we have grown our secured books by 34% Y-o-Y improving the secured mix further to 49%. As we look ahead, we will continue with further d
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n this quarter, we have grown our secured books by 34% Y-o-Y improving the secured mix further to 49%. As we look ahead, we will continue with further diversification on the asset book, through faste
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assets impacted yields, and together with higher slippages led to the moderation of the yields to 6.9% in Q3FY25. However, on a 9MFY25 basis, NIM still remains healthy and stable at 7.3%. Net total
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Guidance — 20 items
Vikash Mundhra
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We will be happy to provide you with any clarity if required from the current quarter numbers and the way forward.
Vikash Mundhra
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It is my privilege to lead Bandhan Bank, and I am confident that together with my team we will be committed to the execution of the Bandhan 2.0 Strategy
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As you may be aware, we have onboarded talent in the various verticals from the best institutions in banking, both private and public sector banks and together with them, I'm confident that we will achieve the goal we have set for ourselves.
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The dedicated transformation management team will be essential for driving innovation, improving operational efficiency, and ensuring the institution adapts the fast-paced changes in technology, regulations, and customer expectations.
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Additionally, the transformation team will be tasked to foster a culture of compliance, agility, and continuous improvement.
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The Transformation Management Office comprises a cross-functional team which will report to the Transformation Apex Committee which will be chaired by me.
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We will be endeavoring to drive deposit growth higher than the advances growth to ensure long-term sustainability.
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We endeavored to achieve a secured mix of 55% plus by FY27.
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As a result, with an increased share of secured advances, we would expect the NIMs to moderate in future to reflect the underlying risk without losing focus on the need to achieve our return on assets.
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While currently, credit costs are a bit elevated, we stand by our endeavor to target lower credit costs over the next few quarters.
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
This process helps in getting a holistic view of the new applicants, develops awareness in case of early warning signals about the existing portfolio and also facilitates taking appropriate risk mitigation steps, whenever necessary.
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Risk, Governance and Compliance: As carrier bankers, we understand the importance of risk and compliance.
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We are committed to embedding risk management and compliance into every aspect of our business.
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As a result, with an increased share of secured advances, we would expect the NIMs to moderate in future to reflect the underlying risk without losing focus on the need to achieve our return on assets.
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On a 9MFY25 basis, we reported an annualized ROA of 1.8% and ROE of 14%, which we believe is comfortable considering the elevated stress in the microfinance segment.
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During the quarter, EEB portfolio witnessed a decline of 3% year-on-year and 5% quarter-on- quarter at Rs.
Rajeev Mantri
98.1% in the previous quarter reflecting the stress in MFI segment.
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On the asset quality front, the Bank has seen incremental stress this quarter higher than expectations.
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While these are early days, we are working hard on the collection mechanism to enhance the overall portfolio quality of the EEB book and will be very watchful of the risk which is there in the industry.
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Excluding the impact of technical write-off, this would be at 3.1%.
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For the nine months ended December 2024, the credit cost was at 2.6% and excluding the impact of the technical write-off it would be at 2.2%.
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Sequentially, there was a decline of 4% and that's primarily on account of the change in product mix towards higher secured and the impact of higher slippages.
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The sequential decline of 50 basis points in NIM is primarily contributed by the impact of the change in advances mix towards more secured as well as the higher slippages, as I mentioned.
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However, if we net out the impact of the ESOP accounting change of Rs.
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We have been very prudent in making provisions on the EEB portfolio in view of the uncertainty and the stress we are seeing in the MFI sector.
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Q&A — 7 exchanges
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Hi, good evening and congratulations on your appointment and heading this Bank. I have a few questions. First, I think in your opening remarks you mentioned that secured share will rise from currently 49% to 55% plus. So, point well taken, sir. Just wanted to check how would you view the share of EEB? Because I think in your unsecured, you have some proportion of the retail unsecured also. So, just wanted to check by FY27 end or maybe FY26 end, how do you see the EEB share? Partha Pratim Sengupta: So, let me tell you as a strategy, we are now going secular on all the areas. So, our, I would sa
Hardik Shah
Right. So, sir, I mean, 49% going to 55% plus, this is a straight away reduction in the EEB book, right? I mean, assuming the retail... Partha Pratim Sengupta: No, again I'm just making it clear. It is not a reduction in the EEB book quantum-wise. It is a percentage growth in the other segment is higher than the EEB growth. So, that's what I say, if I grow 100 in EEB, I will grow 300 in the other segments. Just to supplement, what we have seeing is that EEB book will also grow, but at a more moderate pace and our secured book will grow at a much faster pace and as a result of which the mix wil
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Hello, congratulations for your appointment. So, I wanted to know the average maturity of our EEB portfolio?
Rajeev Mantri
Maturity on? Of EEB portfolio. Partha Pratim Sengupta: So, the product is mainly maximum is two years. Partha Pratim Sengupta: And average is around 18 months. Product tenure varies from one year to two years Okay and if we refer to the slide which is Bandhan plus two and three, so is it a percentage of borrowers or is it a percentage of our AUM? Percentage of AUM. Okay. And lastly on the yield side, so what is our yield on the EEB book I mean what yields do we operate at? Disbursement yield is 22.95%. Okay, and are we seeing any downward revisions in terms of the yield currently? 22.95 at the
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Hello, team. Good evening. Thank you so much for the opportunity to let me ask a question. I just wanted to understand that you mentioned putting in some guardrails. I just wanted to check if we are currently aligned with the 2 plus 1 member rule in MFI or is that something that's going to come in for us from April 1st onwards? Partha Pratim Sengupta: So, the industry is still doing 3 plus 1, but we are doing 2 plus 1. So, that is one. Ours is a little bit tougher than the industry. Number two is that, the industry is giving a DPD of 60 days whereas we are taking it as a 30-day. So, we are not
Rajeev Mantri
And Roshni, if you look at page 21 of the investor deck, we have mentioned that based on the scrub of our portfolio, almost 92% of our portfolio of EEB is Bandhan Plus 2. Yes. As a policy, we always follow that, but after taking loan from us, some people can go to other lenders and take a loan, and that's what reflects what the other portion could be. But it is just less than about 8%, which is greater than Bandhan Plus 2. Understood. Thank you so much. If you could just mention what the interest reversal for this quarter has been like. Interest reversal, do you have any data? Roshni, will com
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Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations on your appointment. I have two questions. So, the share of secured loans will continue to inch up from current levels of 49% to 55% and NIMs as a result will moderate, could you also comment on how this will impact credit cost in the FY25? Partha Pratim Sengupta: Credit cost has very little to do with secured or unsecured advances. Credit cost is more, depend on two factors. One is your total advances and the loan loss provision. So, we are very clear that we want a growth in the asset portfolio. So, maybe it may be in the form o
Vinayak Agrawal
Secondly, sir, if you look at the collection efficiency, we have seen a dip for the month of December versus September. Could you please explain what is driving this and what's your outlook here? That would be my questions. The collection dip that happened in Quarter 3 compared to quarter two was marginal, specifically in certain geographies of UP, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, and Gujarat for us. what we have seen is in the month of January, the collection efficiencies have been better in comparison to December month. So, and you will see that that SMA-0 also came down in the month of December, an
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Thank you so much. As per the current scenario, this Karnataka ordinance has to come out now. So, today and tomorrow, I think we will get the blueprint of that. But the scenario, what is happening is, so have you taken some precautions or have taken some steps towards that how to tackle this? Partha Pratim Sengupta: So, if you just look at it, our Karnataka portfolio is only Rs. 740 crores out of total EEB portfolio of Rs. 56,000 crores, so which is very small and ~13% of which is now delinquent. So, it is more or less as we have been telling that what is happening in the rest of India apart f
Vishal Wadhwa
To supplement what I can add, that the legislation is mainly towards unregulated REs. And what we have done for the regulated REs, obviously we will adopt that. Our portfolio is much smaller then, and what we have done as a proactive measure is to prioritize ensuring that we work towards protecting our portfolio and looking at stalling the growth if need be so, but look at ensuring the portfolio is protected. And out of the Rs. 740 crores, the group lending piece is only Rs. 400 crores. Microfinance by definition is only Rs. 400 crores.
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Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to know how much slippages are there from the EEB book? Like if you could give comparison between Q2 and Q3?
Rajeev Mantri
1,196 is from the EEB book. So, the slippages in the EEB which is Group plus SBAL (Small Business and Agri Loans) both is Rs. 1,196 crores in this quarter and in the last quarter, which is Q2 FY25 was Rs. 752 crores. Okay, also sir your SMA-0 has declined but your SMA-1,2 has increased. So, just wanted to get some colors like do we expect more forward flows into the Stage 3 book? Has the Stage 3 peaked? What are you seeing? The credit cost, I know you guided for FY26 is 2%, but just for a Q4 guidance, do we see incremental slippage is declining, especially from the EEB book? Any color on that?
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Thank you. I'd like to thank all the investors and everyone to join this call and like MD sir to say something. Partha Pratim Sengupta: Yes. So, this was my first Investors Call after taking over the charge of MD & CEO of Bandhan Bank. Thank you all for participating. And to all the investors, I can assure that Bandhan will continue to grow from strength-to-strength. Thank you all.
Management
Speaking time
Rajeev Mantri
14
Moderator
9
Vatsal Shah
7
Hardik Shah
6
Vikash Mundhra
3
Roshini
3
Vinayak Agrawal
3
Puneet
3
Vishal Wadhwa
2
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Opening remarks
Vikash Mundhra
Thank you, Sejal. Good evening, everyone, and a warm welcome to all the participants. It's our pleasure to welcome you all to discuss Bandhan Bank's “Business and Financial Performance” for the Quarter Ending December ‘24. We appreciate your time and participation today. We will take this opportunity to provide insight into our operational activities, including any significant achievements or challenges. We will also touch on market conditions, strategic initiatives, and any changes in our business environment. To discuss all this in details, we have with us our MD and CEO – Mr. Partha Pratim Sengupta; Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer – Mr. Ratan Kumar; Executive Director & Chief Business Officer – Mr. Rajinder Kumar Babbar; Chief Financial Officer – Mr. Rajeev Mantri and myself Vikash Mundra – Head of Investor Relations along with other Senior Management Team of the Bank. We will be happy to provide you with any clarity if required from the current quarter numbers and th
Let me start by giving a brief on my background
I have been a probationary officer in State Bank of India and have been groomed in various fields both in retail and corporate and I rose up to the level of Deputy Managing Director and the Chief Credit Officer of the Bank. From there, I was appointed as the Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer of Indian Overseas Bank. And now I have been appointed as the MD and CEO of Bandhan Bank. I'm proud of the team at Bandhan. We have the talent and the experience to deliver. As you may be aware, we have onboarded talent in the various verticals from the best institutions in banking, both private and public sector banks and together with them, I'm confident that we will achieve the goal we have set for ourselves. Needless to add, the success of any organization depends on its people and I'm proud to say that in my experience over the last three months, I have seen a team which has the passion, commitment and the zeal to deliver. Since the time I have been here, I have undertaken some few
Rajeev Mantri
Thank you, Partha sir. And welcome everyone to the Earnings Call. Before I deep dive into the business numbers, let me begin highlighting the few one-offs that we had during the quarter. In the non interest income we had two one offs which had a positive impact on our overall P&L. Firstly, we received the claim payout from CGFMU stands for credit guarantee funds for micro units and the total income booked on account of the same is Rs. 538 crores. Second, we received a net amount of Rs. 52 crores against microfinance loans from the Assam government under the Assam Relief Scheme. In the provision line item, we had two one-offs. First, we did a technical write-off of Rs. 1,266 crores in the EEB portfolio, as a result of which an incremental provision of Rs. 336 crores was made during the quarter. Second, there is a provision of Rs. 30 crores relating to non-banking assets which also was done during the quarter. The last one off was relating to the staff expenses wherein we had a one off o
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As of December 31, 2024, total deposits stood at Rs. 1.41 lakh crore as against Rs. 1.17 lakh crore in the previous year, same quarter, a growth of 20% Y-o-Y, which is higher than our advance growth. The Bank continues to focus on granular and stable retail deposits. The total retail deposit, which is CASA, plus retail term deposits grew by 16% year-on-year of which the growth in the retail term deposits was higher at 26% year-on-year. CASA deposit stood at Rs. 44,735 crore which increased by 6% year-on-year. The growth is on the softer side but it is largely in line with the industry trend we see on CASA. Within CASA, savings accounts have grown by 8% year-on-year and the Bank continues to focus on building relationships across its customer base, strengthen its value proposition and garner new customers. The CASA ratio stands at 32%. Though the share of CASA has declined on sequential basis, we have witnessed strong growth of 6% quarter-on-quarter in the retail term deposits leading t
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The Bank's overall collection efficiency, excluding NPA, in Q3FY25 was marginally lower at 97.6% as compared to 98.2% in Q2FY25. For the EEB book, the collection efficiency (excluding NPA) in this quarter declined to 97.4% vs. 98.1% in the previous quarter reflecting the stress in MFI segment. Collection efficiency for the non-EEB book also declined to 98.3% in Q3FY25 vs. 98.7% in Q2FY25. I would however mention that the collection efficiency in West Bengal and Assam have largely remained stable at 98.8% and 99.2% respectively over the last couple of quarters. We have however seen some deterioration in the rest of India in the book from a collection efficiency perspective from 97.2% in Q2FY25 to 96.3% in Q3FY25. On the asset quality front, the Bank has seen incremental stress this quarter higher than expectations. The gross slippages for this quarter was Rs.1,621 crores. The increase was primarily in the EEB book, where it increased to Rs.1,196 crores as compared to Rs.752 crores in th
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Coming to the Quarterly P&L, NII at Rs. 2,830 crores grew by 12% year-on-year. Sequentially, there was a decline of 4% and that's primarily on account of the change in product mix towards higher secured and the impact of higher slippages. Our net interest margin (NIM) for the quarter was 6.9% compared to 7.4% in the previous quarter. The sequential decline of 50 basis points in NIM is primarily contributed by the impact of the change in advances mix towards more secured as well as the higher slippages, as I mentioned. On a nine month basis, NIM was stable at 7.3%, which is within our guided range of 7% to 7.5% for this financial year. Our net total income in Q3FY25 was Rs. 3,926 crores, an increase of 28% year-on-year. This includes the one-off gain of Rs. 538 crores on account of CGFMU payout and net Rs. 52 crores received from the Assam government as we highlighted earlier. Operating expenses grew by 35% Y-o-Y. However, if we net out the impact of the ESOP accounting change of Rs. 16
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