Apollo Tyres Limited
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Key numbers — 40 extracted
INR 8.4 billion
13%
13.7%
16.4%
0.8x
INR
45.8 billion
8.4%
INR 5.2 billion
11.2%
11.1%
1.2x
176
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Guidance — 10 items
Neeraj Kanwar
opening
“And by when should we expect some of those efforts to sort of start getting visible in the numbers?”
Neeraj Kanwar
opening
“So some more clarity there will be helpful.”
Siddhartha Bera
opening
“hopefully quarter one will be a much, much better performance, even when I compare to our peers.”
Amyn Pirani
opening
“So both these projects will be sort of preparing us for the future.”
Gaurav Kumar
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“We believe margins will expand definitely and we could, as an example, point you to the restructuring, which was done five years earlier, back in 2020, when the European Operations took a significant uplift in margins because of the manufacturing shift.”
Basudeb Banerjee
opening
“I remember last quarter, you mentioned FY'26 Capex outlook of INR 2000 crore.”
Pramod Amthe
opening
“And how are you looking at it next to your point of view to reduce this going forward?”
Raghunandan N.L.
opening
“On the Netherlands business for FY25, would it be possible to share how are the financials, revenue, cost, gross block, anything you can share at this point?”
Raghunandan N.L.
opening
“And just a last question for the India business, what is your sense on the FY25 market share for PCR and TBR?”
Neeraj Kanwar
opening
“I can only assure you that Apollo will be back in a full swing in quarter one and FY'26 also.”
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Risks & concerns — 5 flagged
Quantification would be difficult at this stage.
— Gaurav Kumar
There was a decline in employee costs and we also understand that there have been some senior level exits at your firm.
— Neeraj Kanwar
So, again, from that perspective only, how do you maybe cope with that and going ahead, is that going to be a challenge or that, I mean, you talked about it, that it is largely sorted and you are geared up for the future.
— Neeraj Kanwar
And we had a few months where things were uncertain.
— Gaurav Kumar
The market share, Raghu, is now difficult because the industry data is not being published.
— Gaurav Kumar
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Opening remarks
Aniket Mhatre
Thank you, Gaurav sir. We will now open the floor for Q&A session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question can please use the raise hand option. Once you are done asking your question, please lower your hand. We will wait for a couple of seconds for the question queue to assemble. First question is from the line of Siddhartha Bera. I have unmuted your line. You can go ahead and ask your question.
Neeraj Kanwar
Sir, first question is again on the growth outlook. We have been sort of, like you rightly said, been slightly underperforming compared to peers. So some color on what areas, and I believe you have already been taking some steps to sort of improve the growth momentum. So some more color, where are we still lagging? And is it more OE or more on the replacement? Where do you think more efforts needed to be taken? And by when should we expect some of those efforts to sort of start getting visible in the numbers? So some more clarity there will be helpful. Okay, Gaurav, I'll take that. So like I mentioned to you, yes, this year has been very, very challenging. We have underperformed, but the green light is that we have put a lot of initiatives in the field. Our replacement market has been robust. So that is one clarification I want to make. Where we have faltered is in OEMs, where we on purpose have come out of some of the sizes that we didn't want to go into. Thereby volume decline has be
Siddhartha Bera
hopefully quarter one will be a much, much better performance, even when I compare to our peers. I hope I've answered that. Yeah. Just a follow up in that, at least at the OE level, I think what we remember last quarter, we had declined in double digits. So from there, we have come to flat. So probably there's been a bit improvement. So should we build in that now, given this trend, we should start expecting some growth.
Siddhartha Bera
Got it. Second question is on this restructuring, what we are doing there. So some sense, what is the contribution of revenues from the Netherlands plant as of now? And given that, if we close it, what happens to this production there? Because in Hungary, we already have a capacity constraint. And do we plan to ship that to Hungary? And if so, when does the new capacity in Hungary comes on stream? So some sense there.
Gaurav Kumar
Yeah. So Siddharth, currently the Enschede plant was producing 0.5 million PCR tyres when we are selling 6 million plus tyres in Europe. So let's say it's a proportion which is under 10%. That can be absorbed between the existing capacities in India and Hungary. As mentioned, we had to sacrifice the non-UHP category sales in the current year in Europe, which led to both underperformance on revenue and also, to a certain extent, that plays into margins. So, the Hungary capacity would be available by the end of this current year.
Amyn Pirani
Yes. Hi, thanks for the opportunity. Just some clarification again on this European performance in the quarter. So did we already start reducing capacity at Enschede? Because if I look at absolute revenues, it is still lower than last quarter as well as last year. So was there a specific capacity constraint or have we run out of capacity? Because if that were the case, at least we should have had some operating leverage benefits. So if you can just explain that, some more color, that would be helpful.
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