HIMATSEIDENSEAugust 19, 2025

Himatsingka Seide Limited

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Management on call
Shrikant Himatsingka
EXECUTIVE VICE
Sankaranarayanan M.
PRESIDENT- FINANCE
Bankesh Dhingra
VICE PRESIDENT & CHIEF
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
ELARA SECURITIES INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
Key numbers — 25 extracted
10.4%
that you might have. So to begin with, our Y-o-Y total revenues and total income saw a decline of 10.4% and stood at INR 661 crores versus INR 738 crores during the same quarter last year. This is larg
INR 661 crore
So to begin with, our Y-o-Y total revenues and total income saw a decline of 10.4% and stood at INR 661 crores versus INR 738 crores during the same quarter last year. This is largely on account of the uncer
INR 738 crore
r Y-o-Y total revenues and total income saw a decline of 10.4% and stood at INR 661 crores versus INR 738 crores during the same quarter last year. This is largely on account of the uncertainties that prevail
99%
were largely range bound during the quarter, as you might have seen already, the Spinning was at 99%. The Sheeting division came in at 60% and Terry at 68%, pretty much the same as last quarter, som
60%
uarter, as you might have seen already, the Spinning was at 99%. The Sheeting division came in at 60% and Terry at 68%, pretty much the same as last quarter, some minor fluctuations in realizations.
68%
t have seen already, the Spinning was at 99%. The Sheeting division came in at 60% and Terry at 68%, pretty much the same as last quarter, some minor fluctuations in realizations. The proposed addi
25%
y much the same as last quarter, some minor fluctuations in realizations. The proposed additional 25% tariff to be imposed by the United States has created some uncertainties and has adversely impact
INR 2,405 crore
ing the first quarter, we continued to bring our debt down vis-à-vis March. Our net debt stood at INR 2,405 crores versus INR 2,425 crores during the end of March 31, 2025. So these are some of the key updates t
INR 2,425 crore
e continued to bring our debt down vis-à-vis March. Our net debt stood at INR 2,405 crores versus INR 2,425 crores during the end of March 31, 2025. So these are some of the key updates that I thought I'd like t
INR 1,000 crore
vious fiscal. And we seem to be broadly on track vis-a-vis our vision of taking India to close to INR 1,000 crores, INR 800 crores to INR 1,000 crores over the next few years. Second, we remain extremely commi
INR 800 crore
seem to be broadly on track vis-a-vis our vision of taking India to close to INR 1,000 crores, INR 800 crores to INR 1,000 crores over the next few years. Second, we remain extremely committed and focused o
5%
textile geographies such as China and Pakistan. If the tariffs were capped at 25%, then we are 5% better off than China and 6% worse off than Pakistan, which puts India in a reasonably competitiv
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Guidance — 15 items
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
On the ESG front, there's really no change from the last quarter, and we remain on track to achieve some of our key sustainability goals by 2030.
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
Our focus areas going forward will be as follows: Number one, we will be focused on our India presence and to grow our India presence.
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
We expect our India business -- India business to close to double from the previous fiscal.
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
Third, we will be making sure that while we take these initiatives, we are balancing our presence across channels and across price points to be able to have a more stable portfolio going forward.
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
We believe that up to 25% of tariffs shouldn't create any material disturbance or any stir of any kind or any interruption of any kind because we will be comparable to other competing home textile geographies such as China and Pakistan.
Shrikant Himatsingka
opening
But hopefully, there will be a resolution to these matters pretty soon.
Suvankar Mallick
qa
Can you just share the FY '26 guidance about like revenue and margin?
Shrikant Himatsingka
qa
That's not a guidance for '26, but that's more a band guidance that we believe we should be at, at any given time.
Shrikant Himatsingka
qa
I mean we had shared with investors earlier that -- and stakeholders earlier that we expect 150 basis to 200 basis point share somewhere in that range.
Shrikant Himatsingka
qa
And maybe the impact will be slightly lower than what was on the 0 to 10 bucket because as far as we are concerned, we have already shared some on the first instance.
Risks & concerns — 12 flagged
So to begin with, our Y-o-Y total revenues and total income saw a decline of 10.4% and stood at INR 661 crores versus INR 738 crores during the same quarter last year.
Shrikant Himatsingka
If the tariffs were capped at 25%, then we are 5% better off than China and 6% worse off than Pakistan, which puts India in a reasonably competitive position, and we don't -- at least as far as Himatsingka is concerned, we don't see that to be a material challenge.
Shrikant Himatsingka
What is turning out to be the challenge is really the tariffs that have been imposed over and above the 25% threshold.
Shrikant Himatsingka
Despite this quarter had a full impact of incremental 10%, which was levied on Indian exports to the U.S., your margin is still at 19%, which was a decent enough decline of hardly 200 basis points.
Bhavin Chheda
So has the client absorbed the incremental 10% impact and there was no impact on FOB values because it looks like the margin decline quarter-on-quarter was largely due to a lower top line and operating leverage.
Bhavin Chheda
Most of the other home textile companies whom we speak to have ramped up their branded profile to mitigate the risk on B2B orders.
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
I'm not sure that brands will help us mitigate B2B risk.
Shrikant Himatsingka
So we feel the brands will add more value when it comes to jurisdictions like India -- and when it comes to channels like e-comm and Qcom, these are really areas where we think brands will have material and substantial value vis-à-vis mitigating B2B risk.
Shrikant Himatsingka
But then what is the challenge in increasing our capacity utilization and growth given that new geographies are being tapped and new customers are being added, India is growing.
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
So where is the challenge line in increasing the utilization?
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
The challenge in Himatsingka specific case, and I can speak only for ourselves, a, is that we were also unfortunately in a position where we had to face revenue loss because of key customers that were not part of our portfolio anymore vis-à-vis BBB and things of that nature.
Shrikant Himatsingka
Unfortunately, these are a little uncertain times, and we have to go through it.
Shrikant Himatsingka
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Q&A — 5 exchanges
Q
My first question is, is the company considering relocating the production to other countries in response to tariff?
Shrikant Himatsingka
There are limitations in doing so, Survankar, because of the underlying regulations and the assets that are involved in the process. So we don't have any specific plans of relocating any manufacturing facilities at this point. Okay. My next question is, is management currently exploring new markets or customers to offset the impact on the U.S. business? Shrikant Himatsingka: We absolutely are. As I said earlier in my business update, other than the U.S., we are currently serving 35 jurisdictions globally. And we service a client roster of over 70 clients non-U.S. We are working round the clock
Q
A couple of questions. One is on the -- first thing on the tariff itself. Despite this quarter had a full impact of incremental 10%, which was levied on Indian exports to the U.S., your margin is still at 19%, which was a decent enough decline of hardly 200 basis points. So has the client absorbed the incremental 10% impact and there was no impact on FOB values because it looks like the margin decline quarter-on-quarter was largely due to a lower top line and operating leverage.
Shrikant Himatsingka
Yes. I mean we had shared with investors earlier that -- and stakeholders earlier that we expect 150 basis to 200 basis point share somewhere in that range. And of course, it's dependent on product mix. And we had also said that as far as the first phase of 10% went, the clients have reached out on sharing some of the burden on tariffs, and we said that we will share a little bit of burdens of the total. And the rest is either been absorbed by the client or the has been passed on to the consumer. To the best of our knowledge, as far as Phase 1 is concerned, it's been absorbed by most of the la
Q
Just wanted to understand the efforts on the brand side. Most of the other home textile companies whom we speak to have ramped up their branded profile to mitigate the risk on B2B orders. Where are -- what are we doing on branded side in the U.S.?
Shrikant Himatsingka
Prena, the Himatsingha operates a fairly substantive portfolio of brands. If you were to look at us, if you were comparing apples-to-apples, there are enough brands that we have as well. I'm not sure that brands will help us mitigate B2B risk. This is Himatsingka's personal -- I mean, this is Himatsingka's opinion because we did operate the largest national portfolio -- national brand portfolio in the country earlier in the United States as far as home textiles is concerned. While it had some advantages, but it didn't help us mitigate some of the B2B risks necessarily because the brand portfol
Q
My question is on the India part of the business. So what has been the top line for the quarter? And how much has it grown on a Y-o-Y basis?
Shrikant Himatsingka
Nirav, can we take this offline because I have to give you some background and foreground. We are not sort of disclosing quarterly numbers on geography-wise quarterly numbers. So -- but I'll be happy to have a discussion with you and give you an overall picture of where we are headed with the domestic market and things that and answer those queries for you. Sure, sure, sure. And another thing was on the other expenses side. now. They have come down by 30% Y-o-Y. So is this number sustainable for the rest of the year? Or do we see any changes at least for the next 2, 3 quarters in FY '26? Shrik
Q
So thank you all for taking all the time today. I do hope we have answered most of your queries. Unfortunately, these are a little uncertain times, and we have to go through it. But please do reach out to us should you need any further clarifications and/or have any questions later on, and we'll be happy to answer it for you. Thank you, and have a good day.
Management
Speaking time
Shrikant Himatsingka
13
Moderator
7
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
6
Suvankar Mallick
4
Bhavin Chheda
3
Nirav Savai
2
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Opening remarks
Prerna Jhunjhunwala
Thank you, Hamshad. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of Elara Securities India Private Limited, I would like to welcome you all for Q1 FY '26 Post Results Conference Call of Himatsingka Seide Limited. Today, we have with us the senior management of the company, including Mr. Shrikant Himatsingka, Executive Vice Chairman and Managing Director; Mr. Sankaranarayanan M., President- Finance and Group CFO; and Mr. Bankesh Dhingra, Vice President, & CFO-Operations. I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Shrikant Himatsingka for opening remarks, post which we will take the Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Shrikant Himatsingka
Hi, everybody. Thanks for taking the time this afternoon to join us for our earnings call. I'd like to begin with a quick business update, presuming you've gone through the numbers. And then, of course, I'll be happy to answer any questions that you might have. So to begin with, our Y-o-Y total revenues and total income saw a decline of 10.4% and stood at INR 661 crores versus INR 738 crores during the same quarter last year. This is largely on account of the uncertainties that prevail owing to the tariffs that have been imposed by the United States. Our capacity utilization levels were largely range bound during the quarter, as you might have seen already, the Spinning was at 99%. The Sheeting division came in at 60% and Terry at 68%, pretty much the same as last quarter, some minor fluctuations in realizations. The proposed additional 25% tariff to be imposed by the United States has created some uncertainties and has adversely impacted sentiments. And this environment reinforces our
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