Mangalore Refinery and Petrochemicals Limited
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Management on call
Shyamprasad Kamath
MD and CEO, Mangalore Refinery and
Key numbers — 20 extracted
10.42%
10%
25,953 crore
1,565 crore
639 crore
rs,
3%
7%
1%
100%
40%
0.6 million
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Guidance — 20 items
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“But going forward, we expect this to be normal and the target could be around 10% for the rest of the fiscal year.”
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“− Various agencies forecast tells us that cracks may remain healthy for the rest of the year.”
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“Hence, hazarding a forecast may not be appropriate here.”
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“− ATF, we saw growth of about 1% year-on-year and going forward, the domestic demand growth is expected to be resilient and our focus on retail outlets will continue to deliver so that incremental margins are delivered for us.”
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“− We expect Q3 also to be above 4.43 MMT of crude processing.”
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“− We will be delighted and open to answer any of your queries.”
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“But, you know, there is another news which has also come saying that we will be doing what is best in the Country’s inerest and that's what the government has made a statement, also made a counter statement.”
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“− Now, going forward, yes, it is not just the Russian barrel that we are going to look at.”
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“And on an economic basis, I am confident that we will be able to sail through.”
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“However, there will be indicative figures for our management consumption.”
Risks & concerns — 8 flagged
So, do you see, sir, any risk to that tune and what is your take on that?
— Petrochemicals Ltd
So, your concern about FX rates having any adverse impact would not be, that is the interpretation would not be fully correct in that case.
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− It's a very difficult kind of a question which, depending on how the product cracks are and how the demand supplies are, the crude economics change.
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So, it is difficult to say that A crude will be replacing the B crude.
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So, it is difficult for us to really put a number.
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So, putting really a hard number is difficult.
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− Well, it is difficult to put a hard number there for me because that will be challenging.
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But then I'm not really anticipating an excise duty change unless, of course, the impact of the recent GST2 has been very significant on the States, but which is not really the case.
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Speaking time
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Opening remarks
Petrochemicals Ltd
− Good morning to everyone. And thank you for joining us on the second quarter earnings call. − I am Shyamprasad Kamath, MD and CEO of Mangalore Refinery & Petrochemicals Ltd. Along with my leadership team, I will walk you through our Q2 performance, the operating environment we faced, and our near term priorities. − First, the operating highlights for the quarter: − Throughput, we processed 4.4 MMT of crude and other feedstocks. We completed our turnaround of one of the complex during Q1. And post that, we have come back fully. And that is how we have been able to display this kind of an excellent throughput, showing our capabilities of the refinery once again. − Fuel and loss and product ease, the company posted a fuel and loss of 10.42%. Yes, the number is slightly on a higher side because post turnaround, there were some initial hiccups in the plants. But going forward, we expect this to be normal and the target could be around 10% for the rest of the fiscal year. − Revenue on the
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− While, yes, there is some kind of a tweet which has come from the US President today. But, you know, there is another news which has also come saying that we will be doing what is best in the Country’s inerest and that's what the government has made a statement, also made a counter statement. − Now, going forward, yes, it is not just the Russian barrel that we are going to look at. We have already started looking at other crudes which are available on discount by our own methods of sourcing crude. And on an economic basis, I am confident that we will be able to sail through. Regarding the Russian barrels, we still believe that government may not be, government has been maintaining that what is the lowest cost of energy sourcing that will continue for us. So, we are confident that it will continue in the near future. − Mr. Achal Shah – Participant: − Understood. And, sir, the final question is with respect to the reported GRMs and any inventory impact on those reported. So, what will
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− Good morning. This is Devendra here. − See, following the industry practice and peer companies, we have discontinued reporting GRM in a published kind of way. However, there will be indicative figures for our management consumption. But looking at the overall published results, we should be able to figure out that the GRMs reflect the reality of good cracks in the current quarter. And roughly, I'd say it is double of the previous. − Mr. Achal Shah – Participant: − Got it, sir. Thanks. That's it. − Moderator – PL Capital: − Varadha, you can unmute yourself and go ahead with your question. − Mr. Varadha – Participant: − Thanks. Just a couple of queries from my side, sir. With regard to the use of gas in the system, has there been an increase quarter-on-quarter? And, how do you see it going forward? 3 − Mr. Shyamprasad Kamath – MD and CEO, Mangalore Refinery and
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− We are consuming gas both as a fuel and as a feed. So, on an economic basis, we keep on looking at it and we have been optimizing the gas intake. Going forward, we are hopeful that the gas prices are going to be economical only, for us. − Mr. Varadha – Participant: − So, at the maximum, what is the kind of amount of gas which you can potentially use in your refineries for both hydrogen as well as fuel? − Mr. Shyamprasad Kamath – MD and CEO, Mangalore Refinery and
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− Nanda, you would like to give some numbers on that? Nanda, you are on mute. − Mr. Nandakumar – Director of Refineries, Mangalore Refinery and
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− We have a hydrogen unit which can take gas and we have power plants in our refinery as well as in the aromatic complex which has gas turbines. So, both can also consume gas. And in the extreme case, we can even take some gas into our general fuel of the refinery. − So presently, I think I can put my outer limit considering the refinery and aromatic complex, it will be 0.7 MM SEMD. And with some modification in the near term, probably we can go up to as high as 1 MM SEMD natural gas. Though presently, we are not up to that limit, we are lower because of the economic outlook. The gas is not, to that extent, it is not yet, but we would be able to capitalize on that opportunity. − Mr. Varadha – Participant: − And with that, what would be the current run rate, sir? You said 0.7 to 1. − Mr. Nandakumar – Director of Refineries, Mangalore Refinery and
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