Narayana Hrudayalaya Ltd.
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7executives
Management on call
Viren Shetty
VICE CHAIRMAN
Emmanuel Rupert
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER & MANAGING DIRECTOR
Sandhya J
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
R. Venkatesh
CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, EAST AND SOUTH REGIONS
Anesh Shetty
MANAGING DIRECTOR, OVERSEAS SUBSIDIARY HCCI
Ravi Vishwanath
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, NHIC
Nishant Singh
VICE PRESIDENT, FINANCE, MERGERS & ACQUISITIONS & INVESTOR RELATIONS
Key numbers — 40 extracted
rs,
70%
350 million
25 million
40 million
50%
40%
43%
20%
23.8%
44%
27%
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Guidance — 20 items
Prithvi
opening
“And what are we aspiring for with the market share in the medium term?”
Anesh Shetty
opening
“It will be approximately, including the government and private sector, it will be closer to about USD 300-350 million or so.”
Prithvi
opening
“Given the way the scale-up is happening, should we expect the insurance business to breakeven in Q3 and move to profits from Q4?”
Prithvi
opening
“Are we largely done with a complete scale-up and then should we expect only high single-digit growth rate on this base?”
Anesh Shetty
opening
“But then, earnings growth will be different because we have some levers to improve our cost structure still.”
Prithvi
opening
“Can we expect this trend to continue going forward, and hopefully FY27 will be a much lower loss number for the clinics and insurance?”
R. Venkatesh
opening
“Our endeavor will be to maintain these margins and even try to improve, obviously subject to cyclical issues and adventures that may come up, but we remain positive on this.”
Anesh Shetty
opening
“But just to give you some broader guidance, the hospital does about 43-44%, here and there, in that range every quarter.”
Dr. Rupert
opening
“Though we have marginally come down on the length of stay, but a major impact will be there.”
R. Venkatesh
opening
“But having said that, we will continue to focus on our domestic numbers going forward for growth.”
Risks & concerns — 4 flagged
But what we have seen here in this particular quarter is that, in our flagships, we've seen the impact of our transformation initiatives, which we've been working on in the last two years.
— R. Venkatesh
Have you guys done some work on what is the possible impact of the CGHS rate hikes and which likely would be followed by other central agencies on our business?
— Nitin Agarwal
It has been very difficult for us with our way of operating a hospital to be able to run it in a breakeven manner.
— Viren Shetty
Early warning systems, not only from a risk for morbidity and mortality, but also from a suggestive plan for the clinical pathways that needs to be followed, which is vetted by the Clinical Working Group across the network.
— Dr. Rupert
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Opening remarks
NH MANAGEMENT TEAM
MR. VIREN SHETTY – VICE CHAIRMAN DR. EMMANUEL RUPERT – CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER & MANAGING DIRECTOR MS. SANDHYA J – CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER MR. R. VENKATESH – CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, EAST AND SOUTH REGIONS DR. ANESH SHETTY – MANAGING DIRECTOR, OVERSEAS SUBSIDIARY HCCI MR. RAVI VISHWANATH – CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, NHIC MR. NISHANT SINGH – VICE PRESIDENT, FINANCE, MERGERS & ACQUISITIONS & INVESTOR RELATIONS MR. VIVEK AGARWAL, SENIOR MANAGER, IR FUNCTION
Nishant Singh
Good afternoon, everyone. Go I am Nishant Singh and I welcome you all to the Q2 of FY26 TRANSCRIPT Earnings Call of Narayana Hrudayalaya Limited. To discuss our performance and address all your queries today, we have with us Mr. Viren Shetty, our Vice Chairman, Dr. Emmanuel Rupert, our CEO and MD, Mr. Sandhya Jayaraman, our Group CFO, Mr. Venkatesh, our Group COO, Dr. Anesh Shetty, our MD of our overseas business, Mr. Ravi Vishwanath, CEO of NHIC and Vivek Agarwal, Senior Manager IR Function. Before we proceed with this call, we would like to remind everyone that the call is being recorded and the transcript of the same shall be made available on our website as well as on the stock exchange at a later date. We would also like to remind you that everything that is being said on this call that reflects any outlook for the future or which can be construed as a forward-looking statement must be viewed in conjunction with the uncertainties and risks that they face. We would also want to hig
Prithvi
Congrats on the good set of numbers. Let me begin with Cayman first. Anesh, this seems to be doing exceptionally well with 70% kind of revenue growth. So, if I have to look at insurance, the revenue has doubled compared to the previous quarter. Could you explain how the product is being received? What is the market size? And what are we aspiring for with the market share in the medium term?
Anesh Shetty
Yeah, Prithvi. So, the response to the insurance product has been very, very good. We have most of the large employers who have already moved to us or are actively considering moving. That's why we're seeing the very aggressive revenue growth. It will take some time for us to decide on what is the market share and where we want to stabilize. We may take a calibrated call depending on how the insurance product is integrating with the hospital. Maybe in about 2-4 quarters, we'll have a view on what the steady state will look like. But for now, it's progressing very well.
Anesh Shetty
So, that information is available on the Monetary Authority website. It will be approximately, including the government and private sector, it will be closer to about USD 300-350 million or so. But that does include the government insurance as well. So, an adjustment needs to be made for that, which can be done.
Prithvi
Understood. Now, if I have to look at the insurance losses, losses have come down significantly in this quarter. Given the way the scale-up is happening, should we expect the insurance business to breakeven in Q3 and move to profits from Q4?
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