CHALETNSEQ1 FY2022August 20, 2021

Chalet Hotels Limited

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Management on call
Sanjay Sethi
MANAGING DIRECTOR & CEO
Milind Wadekar
CFO
Ruchi Rudra
BUSINESS STRATEGY & INVESTOR RELATIONS CH A LET HOTELS
Key numbers — 40 extracted
50%
d to the first wave indicative of resilience of travel and confidence of the travelers. US have 50% and UK 58% of its total population vaccinated, both are key source geographies for Chalet. The Eu
58%
rst wave indicative of resilience of travel and confidence of the travelers. US have 50% and UK 58% of its total population vaccinated, both are key source geographies for Chalet. The European Unio
36%
eral of them have also announced reopening days. For our overall portfolio April occupancies were 36%, May had a steep drop to 23% occupancies; however, June saw a smart recovery at 47% occupancy. Th
23%
ced reopening days. For our overall portfolio April occupancies were 36%, May had a steep drop to 23% occupancies; however, June saw a smart recovery at 47% occupancy. The month of July continue to f
47%
upancies were 36%, May had a steep drop to 23% occupancies; however, June saw a smart recovery at 47% occupancy. The month of July continue to follow the trend with portfolio occupancies at 54%. The
54%
ry at 47% occupancy. The month of July continue to follow the trend with portfolio occupancies at 54%. The month of July has actually recorded highest revenue, occupancy and RevPAR since the pandemic
131 million
nce of food and CH A LET HOTELS beverage. Contribution from F&B segment was 131 million for Q1 against 273 million for the previous quarter. On the P&L front in Q1 we received a rebat
273 million
CH A LET HOTELS beverage. Contribution from F&B segment was 131 million for Q1 against 273 million for the previous quarter. On the P&L front in Q1 we received a rebate from one of our operators
37 million
P&L front in Q1 we received a rebate from one of our operators on some past disputed liability of 37 million on reimbursements, excluding this the revenue for the quarter was 715 million higher 21% year-on-
715 million
isputed liability of 37 million on reimbursements, excluding this the revenue for the quarter was 715 million higher 21% year-on-year. Milind will take you through some of the details later. Our cost control
21%
f 37 million on reimbursements, excluding this the revenue for the quarter was 715 million higher 21% year-on-year. Milind will take you through some of the details later. Our cost control measures s
46%
ils later. Our cost control measures since the beginning of the pandemic have kept the fixed cost 46% lower as compared to the pre-COVID comparable quarter of Q1 FY2020. For the hospitality division
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Guidance — 20 items
Sanjay Sethi
opening
Business continues to come from the segments of Bollywood shows, IPL, and social functions and now banking, financial services and project related businesses are showing a strong shoots of recovery.
Sanjay Sethi
opening
Reported EBITDA for the quarter was negative 31 million this however includes a onetime charge of 94 million for interest payable on cancelation to six flat owners who have decided not to continue with the Koramangala project, as you know these cancelations are funded by the promoters on a cash flow front and we can elaborate this further in the Q&A session.
Milind Wadekar
opening
With the conversion of large part of The Orb at Sahar to commercial office space we will be hedging the portfolio of quarter.
Milind Wadekar
opening
There has been no new subscription from promoters on zero percent nonconvertible redeemable preference shares for funding the outflow relating to residential project at Koramangala during the period under review.
Milind Wadekar
opening
Since we have recommenced negotiations with the flat owners for a new plan a majority of existing owners barring nine have consented to continue with the project.
Milind Wadekar
opening
Of these six customers have exited from the project and payments have been made.
Milind Wadekar
opening
We are awaiting final clearances from regulatory authorities and court to recommence work at site a suitable announcement will be made for the same once the approvals are in place.
Sanjay Sethi
qa
Overall our view is that the domestic business travel will be back in Q3 to at least 50% to 60% of pre-COVID numbers, international travel however will probably have a lag of a couple of quarters after that.
Sanjay Sethi
qa
As a reference we were 1.22 when we listed the company we had come down to a little over 1.1 pre pandemic our target that time was one employee to a room, our fresh target on normalized basis is 0.9 employees to a room and when I say 0.9 I want to emphasize this includes contract employees, fixed term contracts, outsource employees, all of them, this is not just permanent employees.
Aditya Bagul
qa
The last question that I had was on our Koramangala project this has been in limbo ever since our IPO I just wanted to get a status update how do we see the pickup in that project, any timelines that you would like to share or at the time of an IPO there were various discussions that we did in terms of what kind of eventual NPV Chalet would realize if there are any indications that you can share that would be very helpful?
Risks & concerns — 2 flagged
Finally, I think there were two points of business travel one was the companies were not ready to take the risk but then companies were not ready to even call them back to work.
Sanjay Sethi
Mumbai as you know, Maharashtra as a whole has been extremely cautious on the opening up on account of the anticipated third wave and even if it comes I am saying it is a matter of one or two months now for even that to come and go so I do not see a mid or long-term impact of COVID post that I think we will be able to retain occupancy I think it is important to also notice that the ramp up post the second wave has been a lot sharper than the ramp up post the first wave that is one.
Sanjay Sethi
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Q&A — 4 exchanges
Q
Congratulations to the entire team at Chalet for a reasonable performance amidst really challenging times and congratulations Milind Sir on the promotion. Sir I have three questions, firstly Sanjay if you can help me understand a little more in terms of texture of our occupancy, you did allude to improvements across the board in our customer set, but if you can give us a little more texture in terms of how do you see the corporate shaping up over the next three to four months and if we have got any learnings from our Marriott and other brand partners from how international travel is likely to
Sanjay Sethi
Thank you Aditya and it is always a pleasure to speak with you. Overall the state of travel is still in a state of flux and therefore a lot of the business that we are getting right now is business that is being created out of opportunities in the current environment. The good part is that we have been able to capitalize on those opportunities well and have been able to report high occupancies. To answer your question specifically on the business travel I think everyone here on this call will know that, that is still no way near normalcy right now and if you were to open up or look at the DGCA
Q
I have couple of questions number one in the presentation you have highlighted that during the post second wave in the month of June the occupancies jump to 47% and it is more than 50% in July and maybe in early August do we think that 50 plus occupancy levels will gradually improve provide there is no third wave and also how was the ADR overall and in June and July versus maybe 3500 for the whole quarter Q1? CH A LET HOTELS
Sanjay Sethi
Thank you Vikas. Yes you are right in your assessment that the occupancies are now reaching sort for a steady state situation. The third wave is expected and your guess is as good as mine so I would not hazard a guess right now in that one. I think we are as a nation better prepared for it, if it does come by. Mumbai as you know, Maharashtra as a whole has been extremely cautious on the opening up on account of the anticipated third wave and even if it comes I am saying it is a matter of one or two months now for even that to come and go so I do not see a mid or long-term impact of COVID post
Q
Sir firstly when you talk about the occupancy of 54% in July will it be fair to assume that this was largely driven by MMR or is it possible to get some flavor in terms of what sort of occupancies and what sort of growth are you seeing in Bengaluru and Hyderabad and as a followup to this question since June we have seen a sharper recovery across the leading hotels assuming there is no set of another lockdown is it fair to assume that the exit occupancies by end FY2022 should be similar to what it was before the pandemic started and also what is your take on the ADR recovery because of this?
Sanjay Sethi
Sorry I missed the second part of the question could you just repeat that please? I was saying that given that we have seen a fairly sharper recovery since June across hotel sales assuming there is no threat of another lockdown how should one think about the exit occupancies by end FY2022 and relatively what is your take on the ADR recovery because of this? On the first part of your question about occupancies that whether this is largely driven by MMR yes MMR had a larger impact than any other place on the overall growth, but Pune has done well, we see Hyderabad picking up pretty well, Bengalu
Q
Thank you. Once again thank you everyone for your time really appreciate the time that you spent on the call we do hope you all stay well and jointly we look forward to better times ahead. Thank you.
Management
Speaking time
Sanjay Sethi
17
Moderator
6
Milind Wadekar
6
Vikas Ahuja
6
Karan Khanna
5
Aditya Bagul
3
Ruchi Rudra
1
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Opening remarks
Ruchi Rudra
Good Morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Q1 FY2022 performance call for Chalet Hotels Limited. We have with us Mr. Sanjay Sethi, the Managing Director & CEO and Mr. Milind Wadekar, our CFO to take you through the performance and respond to your queries. Let me make the usual disclaimer on forward-looking statements and rounding of numbers. Kindly refer to our presentation, which has been made available on the Stock Exchanges and on our website for the details of the same. I now hand over the line to Mr. Sethi to share his opening remarks.
Sanjay Sethi
Thank you Ruchi. Good morning everyone, hope all of you are safe and doing well. As you are aware the second wave swept the nation and impacted businesses in Q1 of this year. The restrictions brought many cities to a standstill and hospitality business was hit hard. On a positive side we have seen a flattening of the curve in June reflecting well on the business. At the onset of the second wave in March 2021 the state of Maharashtra imposed full lockdown from April 4, 2021 till June 7, 2021 literally impacting two thirds of the quarter. Similar lockdowns were witnessed in Karnataka and Telangana also. There has been a phased opening in these states, Hyderabad has opened up a lot quicker, Maharashtra has been slow to open up, and still has restrictions till 4 pm. Now for some good news, the month of June and July saw improving consumer sentiments with sharp pickup in business and leisure segments. We see a similar trend for the month of August, the ramp up in occupancies were stronger p
Milind Wadekar
Thank you Sanjay. Good morning ladies and gentlemen. The first quarter of this year started in the midst of second wave, with resurfacing of lockdowns and our performance reflect the same. Reported revenue for the quarter was 753 million which includes a rebate received from an operating partner of Rs.37 million for past disputed liabilities. Adjusted for this the revenue was at 715 million for the quarter which was sequentially down by 30%. EBITDA for the quarter was negative 31 million which additionally included Rs.94 million on account of interest on cancelation of six flats in Koramangala. Adjusting for these rebates EBITDA for Q1 was positive of Rs.25 million. PBT post charges on depreciation and interest for the company were negative of 638 million as against negative of 475 million in the sequential quarter of Q4. After taking credit for deferred tax asset of 275 million losses after tax was at Rs.363 million. The hospitality segment contributed 66% of the total revenue of the
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