Jash Engineering Limited
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Management on call
Pratik Patel
CHAIRMAN AND MANAGING DIRECTOR
Dharmendra Jain
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
Key numbers — 40 extracted
500 crore
400 crore
59
crore
91 crore
5.9 crore
2.1 crore
22%
476 crore
191
crore
285 crore
85 crore
82 crore
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Guidance — 20 items
Pratik Patel
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“Some 10 crores of orders also will be coming in by the end of this month.”
Pratik Patel
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“We started from zero this year we expect to be around $18 million and may be minor profits in Rodney Hunt.”
Pratik Patel
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“In addition to this, three orders we have already and we are negotiating a very big order of $5 million plus for large cast iron gas project in Kansas and this order is also under final stages and we expect to receive this order by February.”
Pratik Patel
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“We have got now the first order for Laguna project in Philippines.”
Pratik Patel
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“Big investment has been on SEZ unit 3 where we have set up a complete caste iron gate manufacturing facility with one of the biggest test bench in the world and this facility would be inaugurated by us in early April when we expect our foreign Jash Engineering Limited Directors, including Mr.”
Pratik Patel
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“The growth we delivered which is of 23% is still not as per our expectation but by the end of the year we hope that what we seen the last quarter a huge increase in revenue that may allow us to reach the desired target for the year.”
Pratik Patel
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“Our revenue target was intimated to everyone earlier and consolidated revenue target was around 340 crores on the lower side and maybe on the higher side it may go to little higher.”
Pratik Patel
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“So in next year, I believe most of the orders I would say 70-75% of the orders would be executed at a higher raw material price considered already in our estimate.”
Pratik Patel
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“So we will be back on track next year with improved profitability because the material price shock which we have got this year will not have to that extent in next year.”
Pratik Patel
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“So, we will not be investing in huge capex in America and neither we will be incurring in huge capex in India, the capex of 10-15 crores between Indian and maybe America we'll be doing 1-2-3 crores every year not more.”
Risks & concerns — 15 flagged
However, inspite of the pressure we have still done relatively good because of the higher growth.
— Pratik Patel
And so if we are in reaching 340 crores as consolidated revenue then I will not like to take any further risk just to increase our revenue figures.
— Pratik Patel
So, could you just give a brief on that because input prices will be volatile.
— Zaki Nasser
So input price hike is no more a big concern because next year 75% of the projects which we will be executing would be based on new prices, we still would have 25% of the jobs which would be based on old pricing.
— Pratik Patel
My concern to you is that the major chunk of Jash Engineering is coming from outside India, so why there is such a big gap in revenue from Indian markets and from outside market.
— Bhaskar Tiwari
In the previous quarters, we had experienced some kind of pressure on the employee cost as well as absenteeism in the US.
— Siddesh Chawan
So the first and the second quarter is always weak because of budget reasons and because of monsoon and all the load comes on the third and fourth quarter.
— Pratik Patel
Adding people for new products will come in only a year later not before because I would like to be financially very strong before taking any further risk by adding people.
— Pratik Patel
So do you have any risk plans to show profit even in first and second quarter because usually we have 10% in first half and 90% in second half.
— Sanjay Shah
I understand the concern of all investors in relation to Rodney Hunt, please be assured that I am quite confident that Rodney Hunt is going to be our future.
— Pratik Patel
So all these benefits are coming because of Rodney Hunt and I'm sure in time to come this concern will go.
— Pratik Patel
If I see 70% of question were concern to Rodney Hunt.
— Pratik Patel
So I assure you we are on track, Rodney Hunt would be on track and in future you will not have these may concern about Rodney Hunt.
— Pratik Patel
This was one of the biggest concern all of us.
— Axel Schutte
And I'm sure the team which is also congratulation that you have installed the team, this was also one of my concern and I already discussed with Pratik so many years that you should install a management team which is able to run the company even without him because also his future is also as our own lives are limited.
— Axel Schutte
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Opening remarks
Pratik Patel
Thank you Siddesh. Warm welcome to all the investors who are attending this conference. I will start brief presentation so that those who are new know what is happening in the company and what the company is all about. Those who are new to the Company, we are manufacturing company making products for water, wastewater and allied products to water and waste water industry. We are not an EPC contractor. We have manufacturing plants at 5 locations and have around 800 employees and we sell under our main brands which are Jash, Jash Schutte, Shivpad, Mahr Maschinenbau and Rodney Hunt. The company has evolved over a period of time through acquisition and collaboration. Our motto has been we should be number one, two, three within whatever business we do in India and we would like to be globally within the first 10 in most of the businesses which we do. We went into various acquisition as well as collaboration. Our main acquisition has been Sureseal, Shivpad, Mahr Maschinenbau and Rodney Hunt
Siddesh Chawan
Thank you sir. We will now begin with the Q&A session. To ask question I will ask all the participants to use raise hand option. The first question is from Naveen JR. Please go ahead.
Naveen JR
We have given a very positive commentary with respect to Rodney Hunt in terms of order wins. If I see that for the first nine months of the current financial year we added around 90 crores of orders but in the first 10 days we are in line to back close to 100 crores. So, if you can explain what has changed on the ground for us to back close to 100 crores in these 10 days.
Pratik Patel
First Naveenji you have to understand that America is entering in investment cycle. If you have heard me earlier in the water industry in America, the investment cycle stopped in 2000. There has not been much investment in American infrastructure in the last 20 years. The country has realized, the administration has realized that and they are now required to invest heavily to come at par with all other modern countries. And as a result we would see a huge boost in investment cycle in America. The new administration has already announced investment of more than $50 billion in water infrastructure. So, you can see that all these will result in future also as well as current also new projects are coming up quite fast in America and that is one of the reasons why we have got all these jobs. However it is a matter of luck that all these jobs have come in first 10 days. We were expecting some of the jobs in January, some of the jobs in December. But overall, a huge potential is opening up in
Pratik Patel
Naveenji every year we are doing 10-15 crores capex. So, Rodney Hunt 65-70% of production is done in India and only 30-35% production is done in America. So, we will not be investing in huge capex in America and neither we will be incurring in huge capex in India, the capex of 10-15 crores between Indian and maybe America we'll be doing 1-2-3 crores every year not more.
Naveen JR
My second question is we have a very healthy order book and in the past also, but somehow that is not translating into higher sales. Apart from this external factors Jash Engineering Limited which you spoke of, whether it's COVID or financial constraints with regard to the client, are there any internal factors that you want to highlight?
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